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Quick question for the usual aficionados: is it possible to do an Audiophile update without buying a new hard drive?
That is to say that the Audiophile disk 2024 that I have is barely 50% full and would therefore have plenty of room to receive the Audiophile 2025. Do I have to buy the HD version again ??? Important question, my friends, because I have no intention of piling up hard drives that will gather dust
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Hi Moultipass,
This is a question that only PG Music can answer. To date, and as you know, the company has not created an update version of BIAB specifically for existing Audiophile installations. These days, though, internet connections are faster than they have ever been so downloading a terabyte or two of data is possible. I'm pretty sure that the folk at PG Music will have discussed this more than once over the years. Who knows what the future has in store? When 2025 is released, there is nothing stopping you from contacting PG Music directly, suggesting what you would like to be able to do and then asking if the company has any plans to create such an option.
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Good advice above.
The best suggestion is to wait until 2025 is released and see if they offer a downloadable Audiophile version this time around. Only they know at this stage. If history has anything to do with it, presumably the 2025 release will be announced in December.
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Guys, thanks for your answers and yes, you are right, the fact that 2025 will be almost 90% 2024 makes me think that we could easily make up the difference with fiber or ADSL speed. For a greener, more economical Society, this would be the ideal solution. Looking forward to next week!
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With increased download speeds becoming more widespread, and flash drive capacity and speed improving, this would seem to be the next step. It would also partially or fully solve the problem we have discussed of the European Union charging VAT on more expensive media.
I do remember a downloadable audiophile patch at one time. I think it was when many existing RealTracks were improved.
As suggested, let’s see what happens in a few weeks.
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I received an update on July 27th, only 15 Gigas, less than 10 minutes to download :
Dear Audiophile Band-in-a-Box Windows Customer, We hope you are enjoying your 2024 Band-in-a-Box Audiophile Edition for Windows. Below you will find an update patch (15 GB) for your Audiophile Edition. This patch fixes some potential playback issues with some RealTracks.
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I received an update on July 27th, only 15 Gigas, less than 10 minutes to download :
Dear Audiophile Band-in-a-Box Windows Customer, We hope you are enjoying your 2024 Band-in-a-Box Audiophile Edition for Windows. Below you will find an update patch (15 GB) for your Audiophile Edition. This patch fixes some potential playback issues with some RealTracks. Hmmm. I didn't get a 27 July email on this, but five minutes with the Live Chat straightened it all out. Gotta love Live Chat....
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I would *think that if you buy the new version (as an upgrade), you could be allowed to download the new version and any 'new' RT's from your account with fairly little additional bandwidth issues.
Just me thinking out loud, which sometimes gets me into trouble. That said, maybe HD costs in bulk for PGMusic could actually be a cost compare factor. They *may get the drives cheap enough that it is more economical for them as a business to just send a new drive. This was an excellent question by OP at just the right time.
/but what about if I buy an upgrade from the standard WMA version and need to download ALL the RTs again? //opens a can of worms
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A downloadable version of just the new/changed files would solve another problem that i can see looming.
the instructions that I have always received from PG is that the new version should be copied OVER the previous version. This requires that the target drive has sufficient free space to accept all the new files (because Windows doesn't know that most of the files are duplicates).
I have (a very expensive!) 4TB SSD Drive on which I store my Realtracks/Realstyles/ Realdrums. As soon as we have a BIAB version that occupies more than 2TB for these files I won't be have enough room on my SSD to copy across the next version.
I am speaking as one who WISHES the number and size of realtracks etc to grow (bring on 24 bit files and multi-tracked drums) but I really don't want to have to upgrade my SSD drive when it is almost half empty.
An incremental delta download would solve this problem.
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I would love to see a downloadable audiophile collection of just the new or changed files.
I have a spare computer in another location. Each year when I get my new PG Music hard drive, I highlight and copy over only those RealTracks folders that I know I might use. Even if I selected all the files, the file manager program I use (Total Commander, for 31 years) does not require having as much free space on the target drive as the full size of the files being copied. It would, if I let it, just run merrily along until the target drive was so full that the next folder would not fit.
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Incremental yearly downloadable upgrades for Audiophile edition instead of sending out HDs would definitely be a smoother, faster, less wasteful process. Both for customers and PGM.
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Downloadable might be problematic for any one on a metered connection.
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"Downloadable might be problematic for any one on a metered connection."
Partially true. When you consider how much time energy and effort goes into baking new content to HD, packing, shipping costs etc., a greener, faster and likely cheaper option would be to pay the guy at the "meter" for a day of unlimited fun and just download the chunks that are needed to be up to date.
Definitely not the case for everybody, but would be fantastic as an option.
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Thanks PG !! It's now POSSIBLE.
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Thanks PG !! It's now POSSIBLE. This is cool, I think. What is the content difference between upgrading BiaB 2024 Audiophile to 2025 PlusPak for $149 vs 2025 Audiophile for $199? Studied the purchase page for a few minutes but couldn't figure it out...
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I think the PlusPak will supply the new RTs as WMA, while the Audiophile will provide the FLAC/WAV files. Just a guess.
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I don't think that there will any more WAV files in the distribution. I think all newer files will be lossless FLAC, with the smaller footprint which largely contributes to the ability to provide a downloadable distribution.
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Thanks PG !! It's now POSSIBLE. This is cool, I think. What is the content difference between upgrading BiaB 2024 Audiophile to 2025 PlusPak for $149 vs 2025 Audiophile for $199? Studied the purchase page for a few minutes but couldn't figure it out... I think, but am not positive, that the downloadable $149 package gives you the new RealTracks in Flac format, whereas the $199 SSD drive gives you all RealTracks (past and new) in Flac format.
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Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: AI Stems & Notes - split polyphonic audio into instruments and transcribe
This video demonstrates how to use the new AI-Notes feature together with the AI-Stems splitter, allowing you to select an audio file and have it separated into individual stems while transcribing each one to its own MIDI track. AI-Notes converts polyphonic audio—either full mixes or individual instruments—into MIDI that you can view in notation or play back instantly.
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We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
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We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
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Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
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Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!
Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 21 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 21 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.
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Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
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