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I've used Wikipedia on numerous occassions and I've frequently wondered about the accuracy of the info there. I'd never really given any thought about the required qualifications of the folks who post information on there. I looked something up this morning and I saw a factual error concerning the great state of WV. Being the conscientious,  , individual that I am, I thought that someone should correct the misinformation! Then I noticed this little blue type to the right that said "edit". I clicked on it and found that it took me all of 10 seconds to create an account and be able to edit the info on the Wikipedia page! Shucks, you don't even have to create an account if you're willing to let it post your IP address! I corrected the offending passage and went on my merry way. I've always known that Wikipedia was user created, but I thought there was SOME kind of criteria required in order to be able to post and/or edit the information. I guess the moral of the story is BEWARE of any encyclopedia that will allow ME to edit its content.  I thought some of you may get a laugh out of this.  Even at my own expense!
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That's the magic of knowledge management -> if you type in junk, s.o. will come along and iron it out. For testing purposes you might try planting deliberate false info into the edit field ... and see what happens.
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Martin, I would, but I'm afraid that someone would take it seriously and act on it! 
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Try s.th. more -> harmless ... 
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Martin, Okay, that is pretty funny! Maybe I will invent some fictitious beast that resides only in the backwoods of WV. It can only be seen when I'm outside holding a beer in one hand and a guitar in the other!.............Wait, that's way too common!
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Wiki's pretty good but there ain't no guarantees. I've looked up entertainers before and Wiki said they were dead. Then I'd see them on a new TV show.
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... For testing purposes you might try planting deliberate false info into the edit field ... and see what happens.
This has got to be one of the most irresponsible things I have read here.
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I knew WV was different when Bob posted songs you need to know and I knew none of them. My knowledge needs an upgrade before I revisit the southern areas.
Unfortunately I cannot travel until 12 weeks after they don't change my medications AND declare me fit to do so, and even then my 'medical' coverage is for a max of 6 weeks at a time.
They may pull my Canuckistani citizenship, it takes over an hour to drink one beer, and then it dries my mouth out and makes me thirsty. Oh well on to the second coffee this morning, takes an hour a cup too. I am the cheap date personified now, I resemble the wife banging back her 2 gins a night.
Why are there no seniors discounts on beer?
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This has got to be one of the most irresponsible things I have read here.
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You took the words right out of my mouth Kevin.....except of course for the profanity that would have come out of mine.
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Irresponsible? You guys must have never flown an airplane after smoking a joint!
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Wikipedia, for a period of time we can not visit it...
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I guess what bothers me is that someone could do what Martin suggested and just type in garbage, or info that appears to be correct but isn’t. I personally can’t relate to the “fun” in doing that, but then again I can’t relate to a lot of malicious things people do.
So many people in general and students in particular rely on Wikipedia as source of legitimate info. I was obviously naïve to think there was at least some criteria for being able to post.
As a side note, these spam posts seem to me to be much worse than ever before. It would be nice if the moderators could or would kill more of these things when the posters obviously aren’t new members.
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I guess what bothers me is that someone could do what Martin suggested and just type in garbage
That's one of the reasons for the references section at the bottom; it gives you a way to check out the information at another source (of course, you have to spend time doing it).
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As a generalization I agree with Mac. On the other hand I paid for a roofing job, 1900 bucks, 25 year asphalt shingles, lasted 7 years.
On some occasions we need more lawyers like the US. On the other hand I save about 200 hours a month not listening to rapid fire talk about what the drug I'm taking might do to me, here they say, "Read the label"....
Wikipedia is, in most cases where I've used it, is a decent source. On the other hand I have a set of Dad's 1965 Encyclopedia Americana in 20 some volumes that is a bit dated. If you want it pay the shipping, handling fee, and $200 bucks...na that big a sucker wasn't born every minute....
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Yoda...?
Is that you...?
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Not "fun" at all -> rather testing what might be called swarm intelligence in the Wikipedia context. It's more a means of quality control and benchmarking. If you don't want to be the source of otherwise hopefully harmless 'false info', find entries that don't cut the mustard and watch how long it takes until they are at least up to snuff with Britannica, say. There were assessments of what is more reliable -> Britannica, Encarta (discontinued), Wikipedia ...
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I used to teach students that when researching a subject, we should naturally suspect ALL data, regardless of source.
Recall the situation where the medical community had the wrong number of chromosomes counted for the human cell. This mistake propagated in good old fashioned hardbound books for decades before a young student actually recounted them and found a different sum.
Then there is the problem that we have as human beings where sheer hubris, or ego, prejudices or fill-in-the-blank leads us to believe all sorts of malarky concerning a particular subject regardless of provability via reproduction of result in published experiment.
The *other* problem is sinister.
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most teachers do advise the students that Wiki is an uncontrolled source.
One advantage of such a source is that it is not under the control of someone with an agenda who will present the information in a way that fits his agenda. You can add an alternative point to any article, as Bob mentioned in his his original post.
The law of large numbers says that the larger the sample, the closer the average is to reality. If your performance appraisal at work is dished out by one person, it may mean that you are a bad employee.. but it may also mean that the boss doesn't like you.
If your appraisal is handled by a team and ALL of them give you a bad review, it narrows down the source of the problem quite a bit.
It's statistically less likely that EVERYONE will be wrong at the same time.. but even if they are, Wiki gives the lone ranger an opportunity to add the missing piece of information that may set the record straight. If nothing else it is an exercise in viewing a picture that is larger than your own world view.
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Umm ... The original headline appears to be of more -> relevance than I originally expected. The electronic intifada seems on ...
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