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Almost Forgot Her Name This is a demo of two ideas. First, BiaB CAN do pushes (despite my last song post), they're just not the pushes I normally hear in my head. So for this song I grabbed our latest lyrics and wrote a song using the type of held pushes that BiaB often does quite well. Have posted the BiaB chord sheet below. Second, I used one of the new 2025 multistyles, and I like it a lot. There are six(!) guitars (five acoustic) in a perky acoustic rock style. Although this is a multistyle, I only used the A and B substyles, arranged the guitars in pairs (different pairs than the multistyle) and arrayed these pairs around the stereo field to create a pleasing (I think) soundscape. Have posted the Studio One track and console views below. The production used a few fun techniques including a rear bus blended with the mix bus, vocal FX ducking, and bass EQ to cut mud and increase presence. Most of these can be seen in the pics. (THANKS RayC, David Snyder, and others) Going for a gradual build to a big sound here... Thanks in advance for any listens/input. ANYWAY... R.W. Davis: Lyrics Me: Music, arrangement, mix, master, guitar fills on chorus, vocals(!) AI: None ****** Song Summary ************* Title: Almost Forgot Her Name File:Almost Forgot Her Name.SGU Key=Am , Tempo 110, Length (m:s)=3:09 4 bar intro, 79 bar chorus, from bar 5 to bar 83. Repeat x1 chorus Style is _STEELY.STY (Steely Layered Acoustic Rock) RealTracks in style: ~683:Bass, Electric, PopHalfNotesPush Ev 120 RealTracks in style: 698:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm ElecRockDirty Ev 120 (A:muted) RealTracks in style: 4700:Guitar, Acoustic, Rhythm AcRock8thsSteadySync ev 120 RealTracks in style: 4701:Guitar, Acoustic, Rhythm AcRock8thsSteadyLow ev 120 RealTracks in style: 4702:Guitar, Acoustic, Rhythm AcRock8thsHiArpPicking ev 120 RealTracks in style: 4830:Guitar, Acoustic, Rhythm AcRock8thsHiSteady ev 120 RealTracks in style: 4831:Guitar, Acoustic, Rhythm AcRock8thsHiStrum ev 120 RealDrums in style:FunkRock^01-a:Closed Hat , b:Open Hat PRS SE Zach Myers guitar into Spider V 30 amp I still have that picture Her back to the camera The smokes in her pocket Standing like a Samurai Her blonde hair hit the light Shining off the canopy I can almost hear her Singing like Calliope I would play my guitar She would make up the lyrics She’d get lost in the beat Using pencils as drum sticks The last time I saw her She was getting on a bus And she turned and smiled And waved at all of us She was going to the city To seek fortune and fame But we never heard anything Almost forgot her name I still have a feeling That she’s somewhere on the road Maybe riding a train On some haunted old railroad Perhaps she’s by herself Reading some Henry Thoreau Lost out by Walden Pond Under the washed-out rainbow I can hear her humming If I close my eyes real tight And I’ll lay there smiling When I dream of her tonight The last time I saw her She was getting on a bus And she turned and smiled And waved at all of us She was going to the city To seek fortune and fame But we never heard anything Almost forgot her name I don’t remember why we used to call her Ralph I just remember that it used to make her laugh And as she dragged on her Camel cigarette I couldn’t help but laugh about it myself The last time I saw her…. ![[Linked Image - Only viewable when logged in]](https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=30281&filename=Almost Forgot BiaB.JPG) ![[Linked Image - Only viewable when logged in]](https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=30282&filename=Almost Forgot Studio 1 tracks.JPG) ![[Linked Image - Only viewable when logged in]](https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=30283&filename=Almost Forgot Studio 1 console.JPG)
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I Love it.
R.W. is Bernie to your Elton. This has That kind of dynamic.
The lyric is interesting and uniquely original - much like Bernie's lyrics were.
"I still have that picture
Her back to the camera
The smokes in her pocket
Standing like a Samurai"
Exquisite.
Like Elton's melody/music this constantly surprises. And adds to the lyric by doing so.
An Outstanding Production.
I listened several times to catch more and more.
Nice changing landscape of guitars.
Well placed drum flourishes.
Those pushes work! I don't think I've ever tried a push on a hold.
(I've always played a track with the push I hear and then move the BIAB push to match that. Mostly, I stopped doing pushes)
LOVE the added guitar in the chorus. A Man Who Understands A Hook.
The vocals and harmonies are a delight.
This is very well done.
Thanks for continuing to write and produce music. I fear the days are numbered. severely.
Damn. Good. Music.
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Innovative and very nice.
Great combination of the guitars.
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Ron,
Wow! This is great! I love the write, vocals and production. This song sounds like it should be on the radio playing everywhere.
Your production notes are so interesting. Thanks for including them. The sounds you are getting here are pro-sounding.
A new favorite for me... EXCELLENT!
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Very nice use of style and guitars. Nice mix. Bravo
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Very impressed with the ambition of this "demo"--and your experimentation with the different options available, in the new styles and with other BIAB features. Sounds like lots of work went into this, with a top-notch result. I esp liked the 'abrupt" ending--like losing a thought, or forgetting a name.
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I Love it.
R.W. is Bernie to your Elton. This has That kind of dynamic.
The lyric is interesting and uniquely original - much like Bernie's lyrics were.
"I still have that picture
Her back to the camera
The smokes in her pocket
Standing like a Samurai"
Exquisite.
Like Elton's melody/music this constantly surprises. And adds to the lyric by doing so.
An Outstanding Production.
I listened several times to catch more and more.
Nice changing landscape of guitars.
Well placed drum flourishes.
Those pushes work! I don't think I've ever tried a push on a hold.
(I've always played a track with the push I hear and then move the BIAB push to match that. Mostly, I stopped doing pushes)
LOVE the added guitar in the chorus. A Man Who Understands A Hook.
The vocals and harmonies are a delight.
This is very well done.
Thanks for continuing to write and produce music. I fear the days are numbered. severely.
Damn. Good. Music.
fj Geez, Floyd, this is the nicest post ever. Thank you! We're both big fans of Bernie and Elton, so if a little influence shows, it is the sincerest form of flattery for sure. I'm with you on pushes. This tune was just an experiment to start with what BiaB can do well and work backwards. The guitar fills were the very last adds. Those spaces were screaming for...something, and the fills fit the requirement. I'm no shredder but I like a hook-ish lick. Thanks for the kind words on the vocals. Definitely my weakest area, but I'm learning to compensate.  Harmonies and bridges are my favorite songwriting puzzles to work. Yes, I'm afraid that songwriting and production may soon be lost arts, sort of like calligraphy: Once MS Word and laser printers got so good, who can bother? Hope we're both wrong. At any rate, I'm pretty sure I'm going to keep doing this for the duration. I like to amuse myself. Appreciate the listens and encouragement!
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This is something really special! Bit different style and bit different vocals, but everything sounds so delicious that I would say this is your best. Some thoughts while listening:
-very interesting lyrics and the title is original, nostalgic feel with many nice lines like "Using pencils as drum sticks"
-didn't pay attention to pushes so they work seamlessly (and add tension unintrusively) without glitches I have had several times with them
-great chord progression
-what a catchy chorus
-love your warm voice and those sweet harmonies
-the arrangement contains excellent selection of interesting guitars
-I enjoyed how the bass & drums are mixed - the balance between low, mid & high frequencies is perfect!
-super ending
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It sounds great to my ears. Punchy and clear as a bell.
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Innovative and very nice.
Great combination of the guitars. Thanks, Herb! Yeah, those BiaB guitars are a lot of fun. Glad you enjoyed the tune! Ron,
Wow! This is great! I love the write, vocals and production. This song sounds like it should be on the radio playing everywhere.
Your production notes are so interesting. Thanks for including them. The sounds you are getting here are pro-sounding.
A new favorite for me... EXCELLENT!
Bob Bob, thanks for the very nice review. I only have one question...what is this "radio" you refer to? I looked for it on a couple of streaming services but came up empty... Ha! Casey Kasem's Top 40 countdown was broadcast on our local, small town radio station once a week. It was a welcome window into the big wide world of music outside of our rather limited broadcast area. We stopped everything and listened to it religiously. Maybe better than some religions. Sirius rebroadcasts episodes Sunday mornings at 9, and I still enjoy listening to them when I remember to. THANKS for the listen!
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Great song, lyrics and production. I think the multiple acoustic guitars create a really soft but full backing for everything else to play over.
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Very nice use of style and guitars. Nice mix. Bravo
Laurent THANKS, Laurent! Very impressed with the ambition of this "demo"--and your experimentation with the different options available, in the new styles and with other BIAB features. Sounds like lots of work went into this, with a top-notch result. I esp liked the 'abrupt" ending--like losing a thought, or forgetting a name. THANKS! Glad you liked the demo. Though it turned out nice enough, it wasn't really LOTS of work, just the normal amount. I'd guess four hours over two days, most of that on the vocals. (I'm not a gifted vocalist, to put it kindly) Maybe another two hours listening to different versions while walking or driving, since that's where I plan my harmonies, guitar parts and final mix choices. Yeah, the ending is as unresolved as the narrator's lingering affection. Love these lyrics...
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Wow, really well done, Ron! Excellent lyric, and I really like your vocal too. Question: does R.W. provide you with a lyric and you write the music around that? Or do you provide him with a bed and he comes up with the melody and lyric? Enjoyed very much, just what I needed for my first coffee of the day 
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Wow, this is so unique! Great lyrics and well sung. The pushes work really well. A perfect choice of styles. Nicely done.
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Never got her name, but didn't she work in accounting. R.W. Davis is one super lyricist. Man, this is such a good song on so many levels. Words, melody, harmony, and what a sensational mix. Excellent vocals. Everything in there is so well placed. Love it, Ron.
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This is something really special! Bit different style and bit different vocals, but everything sounds so delicious that I would say this is your best. Some thoughts while listening:
-very interesting lyrics and the title is original, nostalgic feel with many nice lines like "Using pencils as drum sticks"
-didn't pay attention to pushes so they work seamlessly (and add tension unintrusively) without glitches I have had several times with them
-great chord progression
-what a catchy chorus
-love your warm voice and those sweet harmonies
-the arrangement contains excellent selection of interesting guitars
-I enjoyed how the bass & drums are mixed - the balance between low, mid & high frequencies is perfect!
-super ending
Janne Hi, Janne. THANKS for sharing your thoughts on this tune. The lyrics are new ones by my lyricist. He spoils me with wicked cool stuff. The pushes show up as the held chord at the end of each verse and pre-chorus, and twice on each chorus. You're right, they are artifact free and very musical to my ears. The chord progression was written on a guitar in standard tuning, and I took advantage of an open high E string for chords like Fmaj7 and G6. It's a cool sound on guitar and BiaB did a decent job with it. Glad you like the chorus. I started getting goosebumps when I was singing it, always a good sign. Am blushing at any reference to my vocals, but...THANK YOU. The harmonies jumping around between the 3rd, the 5th and the octave were a lot of fun and helped develop the overall dynamic flow. I like harmonies that go somewhere, if that makes sense. Yes, those BiaB guitars are very rich and give an arranger a lot of options. The bass and drums are EQ'd, and the drumkit has a multiband compressor. Wanted the sound to be heavy but not a distraction, so encouraging to get your feedback. The unresolved final chord with the guitar fill's discordant bend seemed like a cute way to reflect the narrator's lack of closure. Glad you liked it! THANKS again!!!
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Ron, you two really have a hit on your hands with this one.
Outstanding vocal
Great lyrics
Super backing band
This sounds like it was recorded in a professional studio.
Loved it
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Dewey.
It sounds great to my ears. Punchy and clear as a bell.
Vic THANKS, Vic! Glad the sonic qualities worked for you. I use multiple sound sources to audition and tweak the masters so that most folks will have a distraction free listening experience. FWIW, I've been thinking about changing my name from "Ron" to "Dewey". Such a cool name. Not yet though... Ha!
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Wow, really well done, Ron! Excellent lyric, and I really like your vocal too. Question: does R.W. provide you with a lyric and you write the music around that? Or do you provide him with a bed and he comes up with the melody and lyric? Enjoyed very much, just what I needed for my first coffee of the day Thanks, Dave! Glad you liked the tune. The lyrics are always provided up front and I take it from there. The lyrics I post on this forum are pasted from the original lyrics sheet, and I never change them, although I may reuse lyrics like choruses or title lines to fill out the song. I may also add BGVs that have related vocals, like a call and response. If I have a musical idea that I've been working on I'll sometimes browse the backlog of lyrics-that-aren't-yet-songs for a candidate. He's VERY prolific, though I've worked through the backlog a couple of times. We've done well over a thousand songs at this point, as crazy/absurd as that sounds...
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Great song, lyrics and production. I think the multiple acoustic guitars create a really soft but full backing for everything else to play over. Thanks, Chay. Very cool that BiaB provided so many guitar tracks in one style that combine in so many interesting ways. The one chugging electric guitar provides a nice edgy accent when needed. Glad you liked the tune!
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Our new jazz, funk & blues RealTracks include a groovin’ collection of RealTracks and RealDrums! These include more requested “soul jazz” RealTracks featuring artists Neil Swainson (bass), Charles Treadway (organ), Brent Mason (guitar), and Wes Little (drums). There are new “smooth jazz” styles (4), which include a RealTracks first: muted trumpet, as well as slick new smooth jazz brushes options for drums. Blues lovers will be thrilled—there are more “classic acoustic blues” styles, including guitar (5), bass (4), and drums (10) with blues master Colin Linden, featuring understated and tasty background acoustic soloing, plus brushes drums and acoustic bass. There are also new electric blues RealTracks, including electric blues with PG favorite Johnny Hiland (3) and soulful electric slide guitar from Colin Linden (4). If you love funk & gospel, there are great new options this year, including gospel organ (3) from Charles Treadway, as well as new funk, tango, and rock ’n’ roll drums (3) and bass (1). And for big, bold arrangements, we have uptempo soul horns (4) featuring a three-part hip horn section with options for a full mix or stems of each individual horn — plus an accompanying rhythm section (4) of drums, bass, guitar, and electric piano!
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Our new rock & pop RealTracks bring a powerful mix of requested favorites, fresh genres, and modern chart-inspired styles! We have more of our popular “Producer Layered Acoustic Guitars (15)” featuring Band-in-a-Box favorite Brent Mason. We’ve continued our much-requested disco styles (10), and added new Celtic guitar (5) with a more basic, accessible approach than our previous Drop-D or DADGAD offerings. There are also highly requested yacht rock styles (17), inspired by the smooth, polished soft-rock sound of the late ’70s and early ’80s — laid-back grooves, silky electric pianos, warm textures, elegant harmonic movement, and pristine production aesthetics. Fans of heavier styles will love our new glam metal (13), capturing the flashy, high-energy sound of ’80s arena-ready guitar rock. We also have a set of rootsy modern-folk rock (18), with a warm, organic sound combining contemporary folk textures and driving acoustic strumming. And we’ve added lots of new modern pop styles (16) — the kinds of sounds you’re hearing on the radio today, featuring exciting new drums, synths, and cutting-edge RealTracks arrangements.
Country, & Americana (Sets 483–488):
Our new country & Americana RealTracks deliver a rich collection of acoustic, electric, and roots-inspired styles! We have new country pop (9) with legendary guitarist Brent Mason. There is also a potpourri (14) of bouzouki, guitars, banjo, and more, perfect for adding texture and character to contemporary acoustic arrangements. We’ve added funky country guitar (5) with PG favorite Brent Mason, along with classic pedal steel styles (5) featuring steel great Doug Jernigan. There are more country songwriter styles (8) that provide intimate, rootsy foundations for storytelling and modern Americana writing. Finally, we have “background soloing” acoustic guitar (12) with Brent Mason — simpler, but still very tasty acoustic lines designed to sit beautifully behind vocals or act as a subtle standalone solo part.
Check out all the 202 new RealTracks (in sets 468-488)!
And, if you are looking for more, the 2026 49-PAK (for $49) includes an impressive collection of 20 bonus RealTracks, featuring exciting and inspiring additions to add to your RealTracks library. You'll get new country-rhythm guitar styles from PG Music favorites Johnny Hiland and Brent Mason, along with modern-pop grooves that capture today’s radio-ready sound! There are also new indie-folk styles with guitar, bass, 6-string bass used as a high-chording instrument, acoustic guitar, and banjo. Plus, dedicated "cymbal fills" RealDrums provide an added layer that work very well with low-key folky styles with other percussion.
The 2026 49-PAK is loaded with other great new add-ons as well. Learn more about the 2026 49-PAK!
2026 Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®!
With your version 2026 for Mac Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons for FREE! Or upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!
These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!
This Free Bonus PAK includes:
- The 2026 RealCombos Booster PAK:
-For Pro customers, this includes 27 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
-For MegaPAK customers, this includes 25 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
-For UltraPAK customers, this includes 12 new RealStyles.
- MIDI Styles Set 92: Look Ma! More MIDI 15: Latin Jazz
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 46: Piano & Organ
- Instrumental Studies Set 24: Groovin' Blues Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 19: Songs with Vocals 9
- Playable RealTracks Set 5
- RealDrums Stems Set 9: Cool Brushes
- SynthMaster Sounds Set 1 (with audio demos)
- iOS Android Band-in-a-Box® App
Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
- 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyle.
- FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
- MIDI Styles Set 93: Look Ma! More MIDI 16: SynthMaster
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 47: More SynthMaster
- Instrumental Studies 25 - Soul Jazz Guitar Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 20: Songs with Vocals 10
- RealDrums Stems Set 10: Groovin' Sticks
- SynthMaster Sounds & Styles Set 2 (sounds & styles with audio demos)
Learn more about the Bonus PAK and 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®!
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