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I want to write my own drum part. But whatever I write will be overwritten by the Style when the file is played.
What can I do?
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Copy and move it to the soloist part where it will remain static and you can edit it. Then mute the actual drum part.
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Can't you 'freeze' it as another option?
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
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Quote:
Can't you 'freeze' it as another option?
Yes. This is the best option.
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I finally got the time to fiddle around and realised I didn't know how to "freeze" the drum part in a Style nor copy the drum patch (i.e instrument) to the solo track. (Copying the notes is ok. But not sure how to make drum as the instrument used in Solo.)
Could someone help me out? Thanks.
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Hello, Quote:
I finally got the time to fiddle around and realised I didn't know how to "freeze" the drum part in a Style nor copy the drum patch (i.e instrument) to the solo track. (Copying the notes is ok. But not sure how to make drum as the instrument used in Solo.)
The "Freeze" option is only present in the latest version of Band-in-a-Box, version 2010. You should see a "snowflake" button in the main toolbar, or you can access the freeze options by right-clicking on the track name or from the Play menu. Once frozen, you can edit the drum track as much as possible.
For drums to work on the Soloist track, you can set the Soloist track type to multi-channel. Drums need to use MIDI channel 10. By default, the Soloist track uses a single channel that is not channel 10. You can use 'Soloist menu | Track type' to set it to multi-channel. Choose patch 1 (standard drum kit). For your inserted notes to default to channel 10, you can set the option in Notation Window options | More... | Inserted note defaults.
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Thanks Andrew. I don't have the latest BIAB version. (Hmm, maybe a good reason to upgrade. ) But I'll give the Solo track a try.
Once again, many thanks.
Last edited by sciomako; 09/14/10 04:41 AM.
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Andrew,
I still couldn't get drum sounds in the Solo track. I think I missed something obvious. This is what I did:
- Change the solo track to multi-channel
- Go to Notation Windows > Options > More, Change Insert Channel to 10
- Go to the drum part in the notation window, highlight the selection I wanted, Edit > Copy. Then go to the Solo notation window, Paste.
- Select Patch 1 in the Instrument dropdown box. But it displays Piano, not Standard Drum kit
- Play it. It's piano sounds...
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hi all i,m sorry for not being on the right post but as a new real track user could anyone help please ..i am using country realpak1 its great no one in scotland it seems is using biab real tracks i,m going out soon without my band and trying to build set ..anyway i,m finding real drums very low in volume 127 seems to be top volume ,,can some one help please cheers
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Hello davey,
You could reduce the volumes of all the other tracks in your song. To do this, you could (temporarily if you want) check the option in Opt.-Prefs to "reduce other part volumes when clicking past 127".
Alternatively, if you're finding that ALL RealDrums are too soft, you could adjust the global dB setting in the RealDrums Preferences dialog. Setting that to 5 or 10 dB will probably be enough.
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Hi Andrew,
I still couldn't get drum sounds in the Solo track. I think I missed something obvious. This is what I did:
- Change the solo track to multi-channel
- Go to Notation Windows > Options > More, Change Insert Channel to 10
- Go to the drum part in the notation window, highlight the selection I wanted, Edit > Copy. Then go to the Solo notation window, Paste.
- Select Patch 1 in the Instrument dropdown box. But it displays Piano, not Standard Drum kit
- Play it. It's piano sounds...
Thanks
John
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If you hear Piano instead of Drums, then the part is on a track that is NOT set to Channel 10 (presuming you are using a standard GM compat MIDI synth). Check the Multi SEQ to see which track and channel your paste ended up on.
You could open the part you pasted in Notation View, hit Edit and then Rightclick on the first note to see what channel it is on.
Ignore the dropdown window - it is permanently set to show you the Melodic Instrument Patchnames, but when the part is on MIDI channel 10, they apply to the Percussion Banks. The Percussion Bank changes kits every 8 Patchnames on the list, so the Piano would be selecting Percussion 001 - Standard Drumkit. But it must be on MIDI Channel 10 to work that way.
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hi thanks andrew i checked and found all my global volumes where at zero so ,ive kept the instruments at zero and adjusted the drums to 10 we,ll see what happens thanks for the reply i think we,ll being talking a lot over the next while ha ah cheers
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Having the "freeze" option is a huge reason to upgrade. It kinda changes the whole game. Worth it.
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Mac,
Great, thanks! It works now. What confused me was, even if it's in Channel 10, BIAB still previews the sound in piano when you are inserting notes. But it plays fine in normal playing.
Once again, thanks Mac and Andrew.
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Hi Davey, I'm up in the Highlands and have been using real tracks for all my backing since they started. Check out what you can do by visiting my youtube channel
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hi graham ..good to hear from you would you like to email me daveboy248@blueyonder.co.uk if its allowed dont want to upset anyone cheers also have you had any problems with realdrums mine are really low and ive udjusted global volume as advised i,d like to hear from you as i have gigs pending without band and need drums to be louder cheers whats the channel
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hi there any one used blues guitar real traks with the country styles for change of sound can this be done ....would like know before purchase cheers
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DaveyScott, a tip: you should remove (edit out) your email address as soon as you know Graham got it. Or, better, send your email address to him in a PM. It's not wise to post an email address in an open forum; spammers love that.
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