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No No No No Going for an even more outrageous, outsized, BIG sound this time. Used Waves latest Magma Stress compression plugin on the bass, vocal and guitar fills tracks to drive a sonic wedge through the mix. Everything except the vocals and guitar fills are Biab. The guitar fills track was an improvised take based on the intro licks and intended as a placeholder. But I decided I liked the rawness and spontaneity of the take more than I disliked the sloppiness. That is, in the aggregate, I like the way it sounds. Looking for feedback on how this sounds overall and anything else you care to comment on. Know the breaths are audible, but I can't decide if that's a bug or a feature. Also know this is very different sounding from my normal posts, but...what is art without experimentation and growth? Sorry, but NO, "AI" is not the correct answer to this (rhetorical) question.  Will update the song file and document here as I incorporate any feedback. THANK YOU! R.W. Davis: Lyrics Me: Arrangement, music, arrangement, vocals, guitar fills, mix, master AI: Not this time... Style is _SUNSHIN.STY (Sunshine Worship Rock) RealTracks in style: ~388:Bass, Electric, Metal Ev 120 RealTracks in style: 1842:Synth Pad, PopModernGrooveA-B Ev16 075 RealTracks in style: 1259:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm PopShiningRockA-B Ev 120 RealTracks in style: 1851:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm PopShiningGrittyA-B Ev 120 RealTracks in style: 3398:Guitar, Acoustic, Rhythm SingerSongwriterGrooveSync Ev 115 RealDrums in style:RockHardEnhanced^01-a:A, b:B Carvin SH-550, bridge pickup (split), Spider V 30 You look at me and say it’s all just science When we’re standing on the shoulders of giants Verbal sparring can be all fun and violence Say what you will, but all I hear is silence No, no, no, no Don’t be that person I can’t stand it When we’re conversin’ And I can tell You have been rehearsin’ No, no, no, no You call your best friend and tell her our secrets I feel so bad but you still have no regrets You’ll probably post it on the world wide web Even though that’s not remotely what I said No, no, no, no Don’t be that person I can’t stand it When we’re conversin’ And I can tell You have been rehearsin’ No, no, no, no You check your notes before you talk right through me Goes to show that you hardly even knew me I put your conversations on an endless loop Knowing one day you might just get to the truth No, no, no, no Don’t be that person I can’t stand it When we’re conversin’ And I can tell You have been rehearsin’ No, no, no, no Don’t tell me lies Don’t make me an experiment Don’t try to fix me I don’t want an argument Maybe we can talk And stay up all night Don’t say it’s my fault Every time we fight No, no, no, no No, no, no, no
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Loved it, one of your best, both you and your brother! Vocals, guitar, all came together beautifully. The rawness of the guitars somehow worked magic commingled with your vocals. Some great rhymes like science and giants; secrets/regrets with their opposite accents was almost a stretch but I liked it. I usually say your vocals are the star of the show, but everything was stellar this time out. For a WIP, this certainly shined!
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Ron,
For me, this is absolutely one of your best!
Awesome vocal and AWESOME production. It has an almost New Wave-ish sound at times, combined with a hard-hitting 90s Indie Rock sound.
The mix on this is big and splashy - lots of textures and air. Very cool!
I would not change a thing. Call this one done - it's perfect as is.
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Hi Ron,
Well, you managed to achieve the BIG sound you were looking for BIG time! Huge!
Sounds great to me, one of your best.
Only comment seeing as you are looking for feedback is maybe a little heavy handed on the de-esser in spots.
Excellent!
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Very cool, Ron. That swampy rhythm guitar with the fuzz tremolo (or whatever it is) is the signature for this song, aided by a lot of good movement in the bass, and those drums sound big as well, even though you didn’t use the Magma Stress on them?
Loved it!
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I echo all the previous comments..I really liked the guitar fill motif and everything about it seemed just right.
I agree with Bob, I'd call this one done!!
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Very cool. I'd call it done.
It has an 80s rock feel to me. Definitely not a bad thing.
Did you grab the magma on the free black Friday deal?
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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Let's see... if 2 negatives equal a positive, 4 should be twice as positive. And yes, this is positively a fine song. Good write with fun lyrics. (We can say they're fun cuz they're not directed to us. We are happy observers of the tongue-lashing someone else is getting.) Meaningful for sure. My favorite lines: "You check your notes before you talk right through me
Goes to show that you hardly even knew me"
Good backing band and mix. You said so well: "I liked the rawness and spontaneity of the take"
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Yes,Yes,Yes,Yes, this is an outstanding song.
Super rocker with a very strong vocal and great harmonies; you don't need no AI vocal.
I really liked your guitar on this one.
Great backing band and a perfect mix.
Your best to date
Don't change a thing
Loved it
It takes courage for a man to admit his wife was wrong.
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Ron,
Always know when I click on one of your songs I’m in for a treat. No exception here. Wicked alternative 80’s like sound (maybe . . . it has a slightly harder edge than that). Cool write and the production hits all the right notes. The “no, no, no, no” definitely hits ear worm territory. Excellent!!
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Very excellent, gritty rocking cruiser! Great production in all respects, including the vocals. Re the lyrics, I've never been in that scenario with a woman, but "Even though that’s not remotely what I said" definitely pertains to male 'friends' I'd categorise as 'mostly positive acquaintances' who one way or another always felt they had to compete with me. Being misquoted or mis-paraphrased is a real pain in the butt! 
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