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Hello, forum friends This is my final post to this forum of the year. About three months ago, I listened to forum member B.D.Thomas's “Once Upon A Time In Life,” a piece created using Suno AI, and was deeply impressed and shocked. Link of B.D.Thomas's post: https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=865884&page=1It made me feel strongly that I also should learn more about Suno AI. And I discovered that Suno AI has the ability to not only write lyrics and compose music, but also to create covers of original works. So this time, I loaded my original Christmas song into Suno AI, which I posted a year ago, and had Suno create a cover of the song. Link of my post a year ago: https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=837197&page=1(The post includes a detailed description of the original work.) I'm sure there will be some people who are opposed to having AI create music, but I would be happy to hear any comments, including those opinions. Best Regards. Shigeki Adachi Link: https://soundcloud.com/animarorecords/young-lovers-on-holy-night-sunoTitle: 聖夜（イヴ）の恋人たち(Translation: Young Lovers on Holy Night) Lyrics by Asane Shima, my friend Composed by Shigeki Adachi Arranged by Suno AI Vocal and accompaniment by Suno AI Summary of lyrics Rushed by the snow fall We are hurrying on the way to the station There are many illuminated trees in the sapphire street I see angel's white wingson your shoulder How sweet our young love is We are groping for our dreams awkwardly You love me tenderly and make me so happy Please heal me more and don’t let me feel painful You are always so close to me But why do I always feel so alone? I’ll say good night to you because I can see you again tomorrow Please hold my hands to keep them from freezing. I want to tell you my shivering feeling We are becoming stardust and flying in the wind When we quietly stop and look up the stars Clean bells sound on holy night
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Shigeki, I listened to both (I remembered hearing the original). I liked the AI arrangement as much as I liked the original. I, too, have been shocked at the quality of the Suno arrangements. My opinion is that any composer would be pleased and honored to hear arrangements of their work, if done faithfully. I have decided to render a number of my completed songs to Suno to create interesting versions, which I won't post here, but have become part of my personal listening library. For me, Suno still is not quite as useful as I would like when it comes to isolating elements that want to add to my BIAB work--the vocals seem to bring over too many artifacts, and I haven't learned how to tell Suno to be "faithful" to my composition's structures. But I'm finding it useful and enjoyable when creating "alternative" versions of my songs. You did a real good job here, Shigeki...of course, you had a top-notch song to start with!
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Shigeki Adachi, The Suno version comes pretty close to your original version/vision. I like both versions equally. Your original version is a little more relaxed and gentle, which I think suits the lyrics better, while the Suno version sounds more like a production for radio/airplay. Both are really good. Enjoyed (both) my listens ![[Linked Image - Only viewable when logged in]](https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/images/icons/default/thumbs_up.gif)
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The fact that a musician of your caliber is willing to work with Suno is a strong indication of how far the AI music service has come. I have no idea what the ceiling is, but it seems apparent Suno is here to stay. In twenty years' time, I suspect there will be few doubters. Myself, I am having a terrific time with it. I had almost twenty songs in limbo that Suno brought to life, and that really made me happy. My forum contributions only use Suno for the vocal - the rest is 100% RTs.
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Shigeki, I don't generally comment on Suno covers since Suno is competing with PG Music for backing track customers. But I do love your song and the example of what is added by a Suno cover. Both versions are quite nice. I like your original version a LITTLE bit better, as to my ears, the non-professional (but human) musicians brings out a plaintive beauty absent in the Suno version. The Suno vocals are more professional sounding for sure. But I don't think they are "better" in conveying the beauty of the song. In this example, Suno faithfully copied the arrangement of your song, and it sounds GREAT, and that, like Suno, is amazing. But my takeaway is that you fully created this lovely song, and recorded/produced an enjoyable version of it, and that Suno just copied it. What did Suno add to your song, or to the listener's experience? For me, nothing significant. Suno IS amazing. I totally get it. But so are you. 
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Hi, Shigeki. There's no doubt that Suno and similar tools are amazing. The strings are lovely - especially at the end - and the singer is flawless backed by subtle harmonies. The result is exquisite, although I miss the oboe in the original. My main problem with AI music on this forum is that it's a direct competitor with BiaB. I've posted about this elsewhere, so there's no need to rehash it here. I use synthetic vocals with SynthesizerV. It's very tempting to use Suno to make that vocal more expressive. And I'm looking forward to using tools like Melisma that can transform notation into audio. It's also very tempting to create a song and then hand it over to Suno to do all the "hard work" of arranging and mixing. And it's hard to argue with the results, as Suno can be very, very good! But at least for now, I'm going to stick with tools that require me to do the work.
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