|
Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: May 2023
Posts: 2,445
Veteran
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: May 2023
Posts: 2,445 |
First came the "Venus Twinkles" instrumental and then the version with vocals, "Venus Twinkles [Lady of Love]", after which I couldn't resist seeing if I could create a rock version, though I wasn't sure it would work. Once I'd gotten the new instrumentation arranged and mixed I added Lucy's vocals from the ["Lady of Love]" version, despite that she's mostly a soft-toned singer, then to add a bit more depth to them I added my demo vocals which I'd previously sent to Lucy. The two vocal tracks worked extremely well together, which is why I expected this to be a duet, but both sets of vocals needed to be a lot more extroverted for a rock version. It took awhile to get things sorted as initially Lucy was on holiday, but the new higher-pitched vocals and harmonies she soon presented I think are *spectacular* and so very, very good that adding new male vocals would have taken away from them. So in the end this definitely very solid rock version has become my favourite of the three. In three places Lucy sings "… who you are" and the 2nd time she sings that "who" (at 2:30 in) her volume and the note are so pure that it hits a frequency which literally makes my solar plexus tingle! Play it at least loudish and enjoy! BiaB samples used: Rhythm Guitars 1 & 2: Jovian Divine Alt Rock Soloing ~ Mike Durham Rhythm Guitars 3 & 4, plus 2nd and 4th Guitar solos: Nashville Radio Power Bal Solo ~ Danny Rader Bass: Jovian Divine Alt Rock Soloing ~ Dow Tomlin Organ: Giddy Up Country Ballad w Organ ~ Blair Masters Drums: Jovian Divine Alt Rock Soloing ~ Shannon Forrest Synth Bell Pad: 80s Soundtrack w/ Bell Pad ~ Ed (Great Oz) Clare Guitar solos 1 & 3: Guitar solo: Praise & Worship w/ Power Pop So ~ Dave Cleveland Harps 1 & 2: Heaven Blissful Celtic Harp Pop Sharlene Wallace Kotos: New Age Bossa w/ Koto Synth ~ Miles Black * I did a Soren AI addition to the Lucy Vocals mix to make it a tad more smooth. *I had to silence 5 high clicks in the Heaven Blissful Celtic Harp Pop stem. *The 2nd Praise & Worship w/ Power Pop So(lo) is a hybrid of 2 solos as the opening fade in and closing fade out of the original didn't quite work. * The New Age Bossa w/ Koto Synth stems are from different samples played together. C - 4/4 - 120bpm - 160 bars - 5:30
Some favourite Waoist Adages:
#1: Play on the Way.
#13: Ask not for whom the flower blooms, it blooms for you.
#58: Bring consciousness to it.
#63: On the road to effortlessness, effort must be made.
#92: Be Love Now, the rest will come on its own.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Jul 2022
Posts: 3,191
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2022
Posts: 3,191 |
Works also well as a rock song. Actually, it works pretty well. For my taste, the intro is a bit long (at least for my attention span), but hey, I write pop music  Enjoyed my listen.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 9,258
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 9,258 |
Chay,
This works great in a rock format. Awesome vocals and a superb mix. Love the big bold sound!
Bob
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 3,845
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 3,845 |
Nicely done, Chay. Sounds like a Rock Opera anthem. Super guitar solos. Great mixing throughout. Like how you've mixed the lead and harmony vocals FX chain, that's a cool effect.
DC Ron
BiaB Audiophile
Presonus Studio One
ASUS I9-12900K DAW, 32 GB RAM
Presonus Faderport 16
Too many guitars (is that a thing?)
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 13,032
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 13,032 |
Chay,
Well done. This Rocks.
Great drive.
Well mixed.
Terrific use of BIAB.
fj
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: May 2023
Posts: 2,445
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: May 2023
Posts: 2,445 |
Works also well as a rock song. Actually, it works pretty well. For my taste, the intro is a bit long (at least for my attention span), but hey, I write pop music Enjoyed my listen. Thanks, B.D., but as it's the exact same chord structure of the "[Lady of Love]" version that intro had to be as long as it is. I also like it, you naughty popster!  Actually I wouldn't class your material as pop, but Indie.
Some favourite Waoist Adages:
#1: Play on the Way.
#13: Ask not for whom the flower blooms, it blooms for you.
#58: Bring consciousness to it.
#63: On the road to effortlessness, effort must be made.
#92: Be Love Now, the rest will come on its own.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: May 2023
Posts: 2,445
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: May 2023
Posts: 2,445 |
Chay,
This works great in a rock format. Awesome vocals and a superb mix. Love the big bold sound!
Bob Thanks, Bob! I'm really pleased with the result, particularly as Lucy really excelled herself. She was initially uncertain that she could manage a rock version, but she did a 100% perfect job.
Some favourite Waoist Adages:
#1: Play on the Way.
#13: Ask not for whom the flower blooms, it blooms for you.
#58: Bring consciousness to it.
#63: On the road to effortlessness, effort must be made.
#92: Be Love Now, the rest will come on its own.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: May 2023
Posts: 2,445
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: May 2023
Posts: 2,445 |
Nicely done, Chay. Sounds like a Rock Opera anthem. Super guitar solos. Great mixing throughout. Like how you've mixed the lead and harmony vocals FX chain, that's a cool effect. Thanks, Ron! Re the harmony vocals FX chain, that's all Lucy's work. She sends me that various stems and usually I do the mixing, but her own finished mix was just perfect.
Some favourite Waoist Adages:
#1: Play on the Way.
#13: Ask not for whom the flower blooms, it blooms for you.
#58: Bring consciousness to it.
#63: On the road to effortlessness, effort must be made.
#92: Be Love Now, the rest will come on its own.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: May 2023
Posts: 2,445
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: May 2023
Posts: 2,445 |
Chay,
Well done. This Rocks.
Great drive.
Well mixed.
Terrific use of BIAB.
fj Thank you, Floyd! Very, very much appreciated!
Some favourite Waoist Adages:
#1: Play on the Way.
#13: Ask not for whom the flower blooms, it blooms for you.
#58: Bring consciousness to it.
#63: On the road to effortlessness, effort must be made.
#92: Be Love Now, the rest will come on its own.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 5,222
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 5,222 |
OH YEAH!! Rock works so well, Chay. I really like the vocals --very tight, and i like the softness in this rock song. Definitely my favorite of the 3 of them. You always manage to give your music such amazing backing bands, and then you do a great job of featuring them. Excellent in many ways!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: May 2023
Posts: 2,445
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: May 2023
Posts: 2,445 |
OH YEAH!! Rock works so well, Chay. I really like the vocals --very tight, and i like the softness in this rock song. Definitely my favorite of the 3 of them. You always manage to give your music such amazing backing bands, and then you do a great job of featuring them. Excellent in many ways! Thanks, Marty! Yep, it's definitely my favourite of the 3 versions, albeit that the original instrumental and then "Lady of Love" with the added vocals have a much more varied and creative arrangement. I think Lucy likes my positive lyrics as now that I want to be producing sung songs she's pestering me to more pronto!
Some favourite Waoist Adages:
#1: Play on the Way.
#13: Ask not for whom the flower blooms, it blooms for you.
#58: Bring consciousness to it.
#63: On the road to effortlessness, effort must be made.
#92: Be Love Now, the rest will come on its own.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 25,071
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 25,071 |
Chay, this works extremely well as a rock song.
Great mix; you are an expert at choosing and blending RTs
Loved those guitar leads as they fit perfectly to the excellent bass track
Super work with those vocals
Loved that backing band
Loved the song
Life is short so make sure you spend as much time as possible on the Internet arguing with strangers.
64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: May 2023
Posts: 2,445
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: May 2023
Posts: 2,445 |
Chay, this works extremely well as a rock song.
Great mix; you are an expert at choosing and blending RTs
Loved those guitar leads as they fit perfectly to the excellent bass track
Super work with those vocals
Loved that backing band
Loved the song Thank you so much, Mario! Lucy was unsure at first if she could sing a rocker, but she really outdid herself this time!
Some favourite Waoist Adages:
#1: Play on the Way.
#13: Ask not for whom the flower blooms, it blooms for you.
#58: Bring consciousness to it.
#63: On the road to effortlessness, effort must be made.
#92: Be Love Now, the rest will come on its own.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 6,103
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 6,103 |
Nicely done, Chay, I enjoy hearing the vocal in there. Instrumentals are fun to do, I did quite a few of them myself back in the day, but working with a vocalist is even more fun  Enjoyed!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: May 2023
Posts: 2,445
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: May 2023
Posts: 2,445 |
Nicely done, Chay, I enjoy hearing the vocal in there. Instrumentals are fun to do, I did quite a few of them myself back in the day, but working with a vocalist is even more fun Enjoyed! Thanks, Dave! 100% agree about working with a vocalist. Great vocals lift all songs into a higher octave. B.D.'s new post is 100% evidence of that!
Some favourite Waoist Adages:
#1: Play on the Way.
#13: Ask not for whom the flower blooms, it blooms for you.
#58: Bring consciousness to it.
#63: On the road to effortlessness, effort must be made.
#92: Be Love Now, the rest will come on its own.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 8,547
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 8,547 |
Hey Chay,
It always sounds like you are having so much fun with these tunes. The instrumentation certainly is fascinating, and the mix sounds great.
Have a great rest of the Sunday.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: May 2023
Posts: 2,445
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: May 2023
Posts: 2,445 |
Hey Chay,
It always sounds like you are having so much fun with these tunes. The instrumentation certainly is fascinating, and the mix sounds great.
Have a great rest of the Sunday. Thanks, David! Yes, I do have a lot of fun with tracks like this - plus I want to be doing more vocal songs now - but I didn't have fun with my last 2 posts despite that "Winter Dream" was my most successful to date on this forum and my 3rd best re YT views; then "Iola Tao" which I really struggled with and is in my least favourite few, but so far it's still had more views than this! Like Dave and I'm sure others, it's sooo frustrating when favourite pieces get less views than those far better!
Some favourite Waoist Adages:
#1: Play on the Way.
#13: Ask not for whom the flower blooms, it blooms for you.
#58: Bring consciousness to it.
#63: On the road to effortlessness, effort must be made.
#92: Be Love Now, the rest will come on its own.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Mar 2022
Posts: 1,263
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Mar 2022
Posts: 1,263 |
I find that your productions take on a whole new dimension when they're sung. It's excellent, with a great blend of vocals and solo guitar.
Laurent
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: May 2023
Posts: 2,445
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: May 2023
Posts: 2,445 |
I find that your productions take on a whole new dimension when they're sung. It's excellent, with a great blend of vocals and solo guitar.
Laurent Thank you, Laurent! I've just begun a new project with Lucy and hopefully 2 other Argentinean lady vocalists for a different kind of song and BVs. It'll be a rocker, too!
Some favourite Waoist Adages:
#1: Play on the Way.
#13: Ask not for whom the flower blooms, it blooms for you.
#58: Bring consciousness to it.
#63: On the road to effortlessness, effort must be made.
#92: Be Love Now, the rest will come on its own.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 2,833
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 2,833 |
Hi Chay,
Well, something completely different from what you're used to! It's a very punchy, cheerful pop/rock song with an amazing guitar solo!
The singing immediately reminded me of LUV, a famous Dutch girl pop group from around the 80s/90s.
It is indeed funny/interesting to hear how the vocals can make your instrumental song something completely different (I believe Laurent wrote that too).
You did a good job with this!
Hans
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Introducing XPro Styles PAK 11 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2026 and Higher!
XPro Styles PAK 11 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box® version 2026 (and higher) is here with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 31 RealTracks/RealDrums!
Guess who’s back again? That’s right! It’s our XPro Styles PAK’s triumphant return with the 11th edition in this series! 100 new styles are coming your way spread across the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres. And this edition's wildcard genre explores the immense and far-reaching catalogue of electronic music! The included 31 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Special offers available until August 31st, 2026!
All the XPro Styles PAKs 1-11 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 11 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2026 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 22 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2026 and Higher!
Xtra Styles PAK 22 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2026 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
It’s time to celebrate! Xtra Styles PAK 22 for Band-in-a-Box® is here, and we've got 200 brand-new styles coming your way!
No Xtra Styles PAK is complete without the classic rock & pop, jazz, and country volumes you know and love, and we’ve got plenty to share, with 150 styles spread across too many genres to list! Of course, it also wouldn’t be complete with our special wildcard volume to add a little spice and pizzazz to the mix. This year, because we loved it so much the first time, we’ve decided to make the second iteration of our SynthMaster volume, full of new sounds, interesting genres, and 50 engaging styles, all making use of the diverse SynthMaster plugin! Here you can find genres such as airy yacht rock, sultry electrotango, and even some synth soca funk. Don’t wait, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 22 today!
In this PAK you can find: dulcet folk ballads, funky gospel country, Brazilian jazz fusion, upbeat 1980s pop, classic Americana, a plethora of breezy bossa novas, indie singer-songwriter, scintillating synthwave, exuberant electronica, and many, many more!
Special offers available until August 31st, 2026!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1-22 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 22 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 22.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 22 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 22 requires the 2026 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
Introducing XPro Styles PAK 11 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2026 and Higher!
XPro Styles PAK 11 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box® version 2026 (and higher) is here with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 31 RealTracks/RealDrums!
Guess who’s back again? That’s right! It’s our XPro Styles PAK’s triumphant return with the 11th edition in this series! 100 new styles are coming your way spread across the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres. And this edition's wildcard genre explores the immense and far-reaching catalogue of electronic music! The included 31 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Special offers available until August 31st, 2026!
All the XPro Styles PAKs 1-11 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 11 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2026 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 22 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2026 and Higher!
Xtra Styles PAK 22 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2026 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
It’s time to celebrate! Xtra Styles PAK 22 for Band-in-a-Box® is here, and we've got 200 brand-new styles coming your way!
No Xtra Styles PAK is complete without the classic rock & pop, jazz, and country volumes you know and love, and we’ve got plenty to share, with 150 styles spread across too many genres to list! Of course, it also wouldn’t be complete with our special wildcard volume to add a little spice and pizzazz to the mix. This year, because we loved it so much the first time, we’ve decided to make the second iteration of our SynthMaster volume, full of new sounds, interesting genres, and 50 engaging styles, all making use of the diverse SynthMaster plugin! Here you can find genres such as airy yacht rock, sultry electrotango, and even some synth soca funk. Don’t wait, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 22 today!
In this PAK you can find: dulcet folk ballads, funky gospel country, Brazilian jazz fusion, upbeat 1980s pop, classic Americana, a plethora of breezy bossa novas, indie singer-songwriter, scintillating synthwave, exuberant electronica, and many, many more!
Special offers available until August 31st, 2026!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1-22 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 22 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 22.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 22 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 22 requires the 2026 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
Peter Gannon Talks Band-in-a-Box with zplane
zplane recently interviewed Peter Gannon, the founder and creator of Band-in-a-Box, about the software's early days, what sets it apart from AI, how zplane's audio algorithms are used in Band-in-a-Box, and more!
Special thanks to the team at zplane for their continued support.
Check out the full interview here: https://products.zplane.de/blog/peter-gannon-interview-pg-music
Last Chance! The Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac® Special Ends Today (May 31, 2026) at 11:59pm PDT!
Time really is running out! Save up to 50% on Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac® upgrades and receive a FREE Bonus PAK—only when you order by 11:59 PM PDT today!
We've added many major new features and new content in a redesigned Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®!
Version 2026 introduces a modernized GUI redesign across the program, with updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, and a new Dark Mode option. There’s also a new side toolbar for quicker access to commonly used windows, and the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, making it easier to customize your workspace.
Another exciting new addition is the amazing new AI-Notes feature, which can transcribe polyphonic audio into MIDI. View the results in notation or play them back as MIDI, and choose whether to transcribe an entire track or transcribe specific parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®.
There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, and much more!
Upgrade your Band-in-a-Box for Mac® to save up to 50% on most Band-in-a-Box® 2026 upgrade packages!
Plus, when you order your Band-in-a-Box® 2026 Mac upgrade during our special, you'll receive a Free Bonus PAK of exciting new add-ons.
If you need any help deciding which package is the best option for you, just let us know. We are here to help!
Band-in-a-Box® 2026 Mac Special Offers Extended Until May 31st!
Good news- we've extended our Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac® special offers until May 31, 2026!
Band-in-a-Box® 2026 is packed with major new features, enhancements, and an incredible lineup of new content! The program now sports a sleek, modern GUI redesign across the entire interface, including updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, a new dark mode option, and more. The brand-new side toolbar provides quicker access to key windows, while the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, creating a flexible, clutter-free workspace. We have an amazing new “AI-Notes” feature. This transcribes polyphonic audio into MIDI so you can view it in notation or play it back as MIDI. You can transcribe an entire track (all pitched instruments and drums) or focus on individual parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, and much more!
There are over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®.
When you order purchase Band-in-a-Box® 2026 before 11:59 PM PDT on May 31st, you'll also receive a Free Bonus PAK packed with exciting new add-ons.
Check out the Band-in-a-Box® for Mac packages page to find the best package for you.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums57
Topics86,635
Posts807,796
Members40,179
| |
Most Online64,515
Apr 8th, 2026
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean