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I think that there are a heap of absolutely false camera grabs to audiences in tears who are not actually listening to this song. It's marvellous what a bit of creative editing can achieve.


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Oh boy, AT you struck a sore point with me.

AI at its worse. All fake! There is nothing real about this video. Not the singer, not the stage, not the audiance. Using a beautiful lyric and a sad story to evoke FAKE emotion. There is a wave of this stuff in our YouTube and Facebook feeds, but I have stopped listening to them. There is no shortage of Real Music with Real emotion to spend time with fakes.

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Yep they overdid it especially with the over zealous crying which was the first giveaway for me, but still I liked the song and even the AI artist.

I think it has reached a stage now for a lot of people that no matter how good a AI song is the mere fact that it was AI created will put a lot off.


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I think it has reached a stage now for a lot of people that no matter how good a AI song is the mere fact that it was AI created will put a lot off.

We are assuredly of that ilk - especially when the entire song is AI generated. And the reasons why are too exhaustive to write.

But to each his own and for folks who don't sing we certainly understand the use of generated vocals.
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Seems a waste to spend even a minute on AI art. Too much of the real stuff out there...


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I've seen that on Facebook. Everything about it is AI.


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Oh boy, AT you struck a sore point with me.
Yep, it's terrible, and that's exactly why I used the words 'absolutely false' crazy


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I guess I'm (again) the only one who thinks this way, but I think it's a pretty good song that could end up high in the charts in the hands of a good singer/band.
The video is a whole different story.
It sucks in every possible way.
This clearly shows that when you suck, the tools don't matter.

But: musiclover asked about the song, not the video.

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I saw the 8+ minutes but decided to have a quick listen anyway.

After all, it's Gandalf on that electric guitar, right?

I'm not sure why the vocal quality got so bad at 4:00, but those lyrics...

But hope gets quiet/without a sound

What does that even mean?

Hope gets tight/so do I

Huh?

You left me behind/and called it a lie

Pronoun game.

When I fell down/you never found me

Wouldn't it be "You never looked for me" or "You didn't help me back up"?

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The whole idea of fake emotion is repulsive. If this were a song written by someone real about a real situation, I would say it is just another song. Not great, not total crap.

One of the things that is never talked about. AI does not do anything, period, full stop. AI is a software program that people use to produce things that they are interested in or that they think can produce income.

The problem isn't that AI made the song. The problem is that the person who used AI to make the song had nothing to say. No experience behind it, no real loss, no real story. So they faked the emotion with crying audience clips because the song couldn't generate it on its own.

A tool doesn't have intent. The person using it does. And if your intent is to manipulate people into feeling something you've never felt yourself, it doesn't matter whether you used AI or a guitar to do it — it's still dishonest.

The real problem is that many people do not understand what AI actually is. It's a statistical engine that recognizes patterns in data and generates output based on what it's seen. It has no emotion, no intent, no experience. Every AI song, every AI video, every AI anything — a human being decided to make it, and that human being is the one responsible for whether it's honest or garbage.

I have a serious AI lab, and I am doing serious work with AI, producing serious results. There are some things AI is very good at. AI music generation is not one of them currently. What will happen in the future? Who knows! But one thing is for sure. Music and what people like is highly subjective. There are definitely people who like AI-generated music.

So....my take, let people like or dislike whatever they want.

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Yeah, I have a buddy that likes to use AI generated tracks, but it's to fit into his idea, so the main structure/idea still has some feel.
I'm still 'ehh' about that, but this level of AI doesn't do it for me at all.

It's a tool, it'll wash out in the end, like Autotune ..
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