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Originally Posted by DC Ron

Damn I really like that! The guitar fills you(?) played are pretty sweet and really brings something to the song. The lyrics are excellent and make you feel for the poor guy!

And if you don't mind me askin' can you explain this? I'm sorta confused

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Originally Posted by vicarn
Really well done on the vocal performance, melody and instrumentals. Good song.
Just two nits smile
I agree with Bob about "took" in the first verse.
Maybe change to something like: "Thought we had what it took or a pretty good try".
The other nit is I think the electric rhythm guitar should stand back 2 or 3 db when you're singing as it's clouding your voice a little.

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Vic, THANKS for the listen and the feedback. I agree, the "took" lyric is definitely not proper grammar, though it has a quirky charm that I quite like.

Have tried every trick I know to hear the electric rhythm guitars overpowering the vocals, but I can't detect it. The two guitars are panned hard left and right, and the vocals are at center. But even flipping to a mono mix didn't reveal an issue. Tried ultra low volume monitoring and I can still hear the vocals clearly, even when the guitars can't be heard at all. Have used multiple audio sources, too.

Know the odds of you reading this reply are slim, but if you do, and if you have interest in helping me figure this out, that would be helpful, and I'd be SO grateful.

But I understand if not. I mean, who has the time any more?

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Originally Posted by Andrew Dee
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I like the pace of your song - a slight nonchalance to reflect the subject’s attempts to forget. The song had a ‘The Cars’ feel to it, possibly aided by Elliott Easton sounding guitar fills - I like the tone of the guitar fills - a tone like a combination of guitar and organ just like The Cars would use. I would’ve preferred for the piano to have a bit more focus/space to operate in when it came in, but that’s a preference thing, and without the benefit of hearing it isolated, which might change my opinion. Good BVs as usual. I’d put this song amongst my favourites of yours, although ‘The girl from accounting’ is still top.
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THANK YOU, Andrew! Yeah, it's another sad-song-sung-happy thing, a song form I'm overly fond of.

I do love the Cars in general and Elliot's favored tone a lot. I was actually going for something more like Waddy Wachtel's work on "It's So Easy", but it ended up sounding more like Robert Fripp, who I also love. It's just a thick, creamy overdrive, but it does sound cool.

The piano sounds fine quality wise, and I could have cranked it up, but I didn't want it too far up front due to the BGVs. I ended up liking the way the piano tinkled up to fill out the mix in that last section.

Never figured you as a "Girl from Accounting" guy, but it's one of my favorite's, too. One of my few posts with me playing all (both) the guitars.

THANKS AGAIN!


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Originally Posted by WaoBand
Another brilliant song from you, Ron. Love the chord structure and mix, plus I think the guitar fills are really effective and excellent. I suspect that a lot of songwriters will relate to the theme: I don't think about it at all, but I'll still write a song about it! laugh

Thanks, Chay. Yeah, the part near the end where the narrator realizes that "she just gets better..." kills me every time. Certainly an understandable predicament, even if not directly relatable. Appreciate the compliment on the fills. They were a lot of fun!

The chord progressions are among the simplest and most repetitive I've posted, but the melody, lyrics and arrangement keep it interesting. I sometimes overcomplicate the music just because I can, and this song is a reminder to me that a good song doesn't always HAVE to...

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Originally Posted by rayc
Excellent.

Thank you, rayc. A brief, positive response from you is quite high praise in my book. We appreciate it!

Originally Posted by K-Dub Ya
Hey there Ron,

45 years in the making, just like wine getting better with age. Love your fills, nothing wrong with them, if you throw the ones you discarded my way, I'd be more than satisfied. Loved the harmonies that came into the song toward the end, exceptional. You're a fine musician, lyricist, and artist.

Love yer work, kind regards

Thanks for the kind remarks, Lee. My brother doesn't play an instrument and I'm not a lyricist, SOoooo...we make a good team.

The extra harmony on the chorus at the end is an added high harmony. I'm mostly in falsetto, and not singing it particularly well, but I got away with it in the mix. I do love the dynamic punch of added harmonies. Fun to sing, too. smile


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Originally Posted by MarioD
Ron, this is so good if played on the radio today it would be in the top ten for sure
Great vocal
The lyrics tells the story - brilliant write
Great backing band and mix
Loved it

THANKS, Mario. Now, if anybody ever LISTENED to music on the radio anymore, that would help, too. Ha!


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Originally Posted by DC Ron
THANKS, Mario. Now, if anybody ever LISTENED to music on the radio anymore, that would help, too. Ha!

I do . . . Well . . . SiriusXM if that counts.

And yea, if I heard this song on the radio it would not be out of place.It's a better song than a lot I do hear on the air nowadays.


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Originally Posted by Ghostgum
Due to my advanced age, I don't recall your earlier versions. That said, I definitely like this one better.
Those rather clever lyrics remind me that often our lives, our thoughts, our words, or our beliefs manifest certain contradictions – contradictions that may be manifest to others but not necessarily to ourselves.
Great job.

Thanks, Brian. You're much more articulate than I am on the topic, but I agree with you. These lyrics are both subtle and profound, and I'm quite fond of them.


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Hi, Ron of the DC.

Yep, that chorus makes the song worth revisiting!

Happy sad pop. Love it. smile


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Originally Posted by B.D.Thomas
Love it, Ron.
Great guitar, great vocals, and great lyrics.
Even though you missed the chance to sing "I don’t think about it. Every day".
Now I have to use that in one of my songs grin

Ha! You are most welcome to the "missing" lyric in this one. Looking forward to hearing it soon. smile

Glad you enjoyed the tune. THANKS, B.D.!


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“But somehow the future catches me blind
Or leaves me battling for another time
It flashed an image of her face
Just to leave a bittersweet taste”

Great vivid imagery and your vocals so well captured the emotion.

It’s interesting to hear how well the fine lyric works …
in both the earlier country version and this one.

Nice band and fills by you.
It all works for us.

I know you had concerns but we don’t, i.e, no nits. smile
We’d rather sit back and listen than to parse it out.
That’s our approach when a tune like this grabs us from the get go.

Oh, did we say good mix? Well we assuredly implied it!

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Originally Posted by BabuMusic
"the balance between precision and spontaneity" --yeah, i get that too. Since function is always over fashion, i tend to spontaneity over precision. Precision is for Ai --and some classical players. smile

What a fine song, Ron. I can see why you;d do it several ways, and it's so cool that BiaB helps so well with that. This is a great version, and the guitar seemed very presice to me. Probably cuz i was really enjoying the whole, especially the lyrics (you're the best R.W. Davis!) and the vocal. Terrific production. Powerful sound.

Ha this is cool. As i was typing "powerful" Soundcloud loaded Mario's "Power."

Thanks, Marty. Yeah, the more perfect I try to make a melodic guitar part the more stiff it seems to sound, so I usually just figure out a simple theme and then punch record. Sometimes it works...Glad you enjoyed the tune!


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Originally Posted by laurent4114
I really like the guitar riffing in the background; it has a sound somewhere between an electric guitar and a synthesizer. The singing is great. Very good song.
Laurent

Thank you, Laurent. Yeah, those saturated guitar tones can pass for a synth when they're not sliding and hammering, and sometimes even when they are. It's one of my favorite guitar voices but I try not to overuse it. Glad you enjoyed the tune!


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Originally Posted by floyd jane
You guys are SO original and unique - lyrics, melody, production...
Always a treat to hear your music.
Terrific underlying groove. Fills work well - good cohesive sound start to finish..
Excellent vocals and BGVs.
Nice arrangement. Good mix.

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Professional sounding mix, rocks really hard - those energetic backing guitars and your guitar fills melt into a really pleasant soup of perfect pop rock. The drums and the piano are punchy, those smooth vocals cut through perfectly and as always the backing vocals are tasty.

The lyrics have that romantic/bittersweet teenage love feel that is easy to relate to (in memories). Genious handling of the title in the chorus. And when the great melody is added to this list, everything screams excellence.

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Damn I really like that! The guitar fills you(?) played are pretty sweet and really brings something to the song. The lyrics are excellent and make you feel for the poor guy!

And if you don't mind me askin' can you explain this? I'm sorta confused

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Is it it a realtrack or MIDI track? I'm still a BiaB newbie so just wanted to know what you did here. Might be something I can learn from and use in the future

Russell, THANK YOU for the listen and the feedback. These are among my favorite lyrics, exactly because of how they provoke a "poor guy" feeling without the narrator actively seeking sympathy. I mean, he doesn't even think about it at all, RIGHT???

As to your question...

Most RealTracks, like piano #2763, have MIDI transcripts. These are used to populate the Staff View in BiaB, but they can also be extracted as a MIDI track to drive a VSTi synth. To do this, I drag the track I want to the MID region of the Dropzone, and then from the Dropzone to my DAW. (This is a general description for how I do it, details may differ by DAW, I think. I'm like a mouse: I only know where MY cheese is.)

All the piano tracks I've used this way have embedded velocity data, which helps them sound more nuanced. Piano RealTracks can sound "blurry" to my ears, depending on how they are stretched for tempo and key, I presume. So I will often use a VSTi instead.


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Hi, Ron of the DC.

Yep, that chorus makes the song worth revisiting!

Happy sad pop. Love it. smile

Thanks, David! Glad you liked the tune. smile


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I really like this song.

When you do guitar fills, don't be afraid to put them in the spotlight. Just from a casual listen it sounded like a synth was playing a repetitive riff under the mix. ( was that the guitar?)

I heard several places where you could easily have inserted a simple fill lasting about 6 seconds each, give or take. Starting at the 1 minute point, and 1:55 point. I noticed a few other opportunities for shorter fills between the sections. I like to use different instruments at times for the fills. It adds interest and a different texture to the overall sound. I could hear guitar as well as piano fills. For fills, just use phrasing. A few properly played and placed notes wins the day. Piano works really well for using just a few notes for a fill.

The overall song itself was really nice and has that laid back pop feel to it. Nice work you can be proud of.


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I...Just from a casual listen it sounded like a synth was playing a repetitive riff under the mix. ( was that the guitar?)

Yep, those are the guitar fills. What I'm calling "fills" is more like a recurring motif. Each time it's played there are differences in timing, length, approach notes, etc., but it's the same basic motif. One continuous take, no punches.

The guitar sound is an overdriven tone favored by Robert Fripp and quite a few others in the pop/rock genre, but it's not used much in country that I've noticed.

Thanks for the listen and the tips, Herb!


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Originally Posted by Janice & Bud
“But somehow the future catches me blind
Or leaves me battling for another time
It flashed an image of her face
Just to leave a bittersweet taste”

Great vivid imagery and your vocals so well captured the emotion.

It’s interesting to hear how well the fine lyric works …
in both the earlier country version and this one.

Nice band and fills by you.
It all works for us.

I know you had concerns but we don’t, i.e, no nits. smile
We’d rather sit back and listen than to parse it out.
That’s our approach when a tune like this grabs us from the get go.

Oh, did we say good mix? Well we assuredly implied it!

Well done,

J&B

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If you need any help deciding which package is the best option for you, just let us know. We are here to help!

Band-in-a-Box® 2026 Mac Special Offers Extended Until May 31st!

Good news- we've extended our Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac® special offers until May 31, 2026!

Band-in-a-Box® 2026 is packed with major new features, enhancements, and an incredible lineup of new content! The program now sports a sleek, modern GUI redesign across the entire interface, including updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, a new dark mode option, and more. The brand-new side toolbar provides quicker access to key windows, while the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, creating a flexible, clutter-free workspace. We have an amazing new “AI-Notes” feature. This transcribes polyphonic audio into MIDI so you can view it in notation or play it back as MIDI. You can transcribe an entire track (all pitched instruments and drums) or focus on individual parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, and much more!

There are over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®.

When you order purchase Band-in-a-Box® 2026 before 11:59 PM PDT on May 31st, you'll also receive a Free Bonus PAK packed with exciting new add-ons.

Check out the Band-in-a-Box® for Mac packages page to find the best package for you.

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