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John Conley #95297 12/06/10 08:29 AM
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John I have to say this.With all what you have been through and still going through you make all of us who moan about our aches and pains(Ive got some arthritis) wimps.looking at your itinerary it looks as if you and your wife are going to have a great time.Cheers Frankie

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John & Mac just in:

Dear Mr Keefe

Thank you for your email regarding the PSR-620.

When using Organ Voices, you may see these figures after the Voice name (Depending on model). In this case the 16+2 indicates which Drawbar was used on an electronic organ (16ft & 2 ft). These names came from the pitch originally used from pipe organs.

We hope this helps

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I used a slight variant for that setting this past weekend on a borrowed Nord Electro73 which has a fantastic B3 emulation.

For the kind of music we were doing (straight up 3 chord, sometimes 4 chord rock and reggae), I used lots of

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000008008 on a couple tracks as a little background whistle-pad kind of a thing.

As you can see, I was there for the growl!

There's a 2-track, off-the-board mix I have on CD but haven't listened to it. I'll pick out the non-embarrassing parts and perhaps post some snippets if I get permission from the band leader.

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Just found this, you might find it interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqyqqYW91EY&feature=related

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Hi Guys,The reason I posted this up was I was hoping this church organ sound was in biab for a gospel song Ive written.The organ sound I want is on my PSR-620 keyboard the one named 16 +2 but Im not a keyboard player so I probably will get someone in to play the parts.Thanks Frankie


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Frankie,
Don't forget, if you find an organ part in BIAB that you like, that's a MIDI, not Real Tracks, you can assign that particular sound to it. That is, of course, unless it's the melody.

This is one of the reasons I suggested some of those keyboards, the sound generation from them, if you're using MIDI, is going to be better than your 620.

Is the sound you want for a backing track, or for the melody track? Even though you're using Real Tracks, you can still use a MIDI track for organ.

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Hi Gary,Im not impressed with the midi sounds Im hearing I dont think its my sound card Ive got the creative soundblaster.The 16 + 2 on my 620 sounds perfect and would be used for mostly backing but also some melody.Ive never used midi in biab only rt so will have to look up how to use it alongside rt's.thanks Frankie


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Gary isn't taking into account those great sounding B3 Realtracks as well.

Depending on genre, of course, but some of those can sound purty darned good in the right situation.

Unlike a MIDI representation, these are made by recording an outstanding B3 player on real B3 with Leslie. You simply cannot imply that kind of animation using MIDI - and animation is what the organ is really all about.


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Gary isn't taking into account those great sounding B3 Realtracks as well.

Depending on genre, of course, but some of those can sound purty darned good in the right situation.

Unlike a MIDI representation, these are made by recording an outstanding B3 player on real B3 with Leslie. You simply cannot imply that kind of animation using MIDI - and animation is what the organ is really all about.


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B3 realtracks Mac where are they? Frankie


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sorry Mac Ive played those organs and though they might sound great they are not the sound Im looking for like the church sound on my PSR-620.It looks as if Im going to have to get down and try to play it.Frankie


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You dont have to play it. Hook your BiaB computer to the DGX via USB. Install the driver that came with the DGX on the computer. You can get the driver from Yamaha online. Then BiaB can be made to play the part on the DGX set to "16+2".

Connect the sound output of the DGX to the line input on your sound card. Start the audio recorder in BiaB. Start the song and the DGX will be recorded.

While you are at it, try doubling the DGX 16+2 with its "Lite Organ," #190.


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You dont have to play it. Hook your BiaB computer to the DGX via USB. Install the driver that came with the DGX on the computer. You can get the driver from Yamaha online. Then BiaB can be made to play the part on the DGX set to "16+2".

Connect the sound output of the DGX to the line input on your sound card. Start the audio recorder in BiaB. Start the song and the DGX will be recorded.

While you are at it, try doubling the DGX 16+2 with its "Lite Organ," #190.




yikes! Not being that techno minded its might be a long haul but will give it a try Thanks Frankie


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Gary isn't taking into account those great sounding B3 Realtracks as well.

Depending on genre, of course, but some of those can sound purty darned good in the right situation.

Unlike a MIDI representation, these are made by recording an outstanding B3 player on real B3 with Leslie. You simply cannot imply that kind of animation using MIDI - and animation is what the organ is really all about.


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Mac, there is no doubt about that. But, since I didn't get the summer pack, and don't have the latest version yet, I can't say.

But, I also think that no matter what, most any of the synths, and any of the more recently available Yamaha, Roland, or Ketron synths that are available are going to head and shoulders in all sound generation above the PSR-620.

Now, as Frankie has said, he's not done anything with MIDI, and that's fine. So, maybe he doesn't need any synth. I just was trying to offer him a low cost alternative to the 620.

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>>>...Yikes! Not being that techno minded its might be a long haul but will give it a try Thanks Frankie..>>>

Yes, it is a little complicated. It will take some trial and error to get everything the way you want it. But the learning curve is worth it. These connections are actually pretty basic. Just the beginning of what you will need to learn to get the real value out of MIDI, computer sound and music programs like BiaB.

If you get stuck, the best advice available anywhere is found right here in this forum.


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Hi Flatfoot,Just listened to the song valley of love and delight..did you write the tune and lyrics cheers Frankie


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I wrote it while I was walking the Appalachian Trail. I did not have an instrument with me, so I based it on the familiar Shaker hymn called "Simple Gifts." (Google it)

It says so in the credits.


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