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Certain notes are played an octave higher in the song compared to the stylemaker.
The note here are (2)-notes like a G(2) that is played as G(3). While in the stylemaker this same note is played as G(2). Since this tone is part of the family of tones a piano can play I don't understand this.
How can I convince BIAB to use the entered notes as long as they are in the range of the desired instrument?
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Which style?
What is the entered Chord progression for the bar before and after? Do we know the song?
More info needed.
Do you mean G2 is a G9? Same chord really. A G3 is is G and B, this is 3rds. A G2 is often used in jazz to enhance things. Is the embellishment box checked?
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After posting I have tried to find out whether I can add an attachment which is not possible. So here is the descrition of what I did:
I created a new style. I entered only piano accompaniment using the pattern editor.
8 to the bar: C(3) C(4) E(3) F(3) F#(3) G(3) G(2) G(3)
So far I have entered this sequence in two consecutive measures. Nothing else is in this style.
For a song I have entered the chord progression of a simple 24-bar-blues:
C (four measures) F (two measures) C (two measures) G (two measures) F (two measures)
C (four measures).
No melody is entered.
Style name: BW-19.sty
Best regards.
Guido Haas
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For duplicating your quagmire it would be helpful if you gave more precise decriptions -> exact style name, instrument under scrutiny, exact pattern showing the behavior ...
There is an off chance that an octave setting different from zero in the Pref/Channels Settings may be active.
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I never messed with the styles. There are thousands of them and I preview them.
And I'm more inclined to jazz, so I have say, Bluesette which is 3/4 and I pick 3/4 styles and audition them. You might want to find a piece with the progression you are looking for and mull that over.
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If I would have found that progression, I wouldn't have done the work myself.
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These are single notes. The (#) is not a chord designator but an indicator to which octave on the piano keyboard this note belongs. When you look at the piano keyboard on the BIAB screen the leftmost key on the keyboard is C(1).
Best wishes.
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Looks like a bug to me. You may affect the creation of the pattern via settings in the StyleMaker, such as Opt/Voice Leading -> 'riff based' AND 'Transpose Down Limit'. Transpose Down Limit "12" makes G2 play, yet transposes C(4) down to C(3). Transpose Down Limit "6", say, makes C(4) play, yet transposes G(2) up to G(3). You might want to send a demo file to support and/or upload such a file to a free file server such as www.2shared.com to have others participate in the solution process. Edit: Don't use 2shared.com - that's a spam nuisance.
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might be a nomenclature difference.
What about Gsus2?
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John, that's a standard riff mapped onto a style, yet the StyleMaker botches up ...
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Thanks for that tip. Here are the files: Edit: I have deleted these files from the 2shared-server because of unusability issues. I have uploaded the files to docs.google. The .sty is meanwhile modified and the appropriate option is assigned. https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B7mm11O...uthkey=COyqtdwGhttps://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B7mm11O...uthkey=CL3FxfIEwhere Test_BW-19 is just a simple chromatic chord structure and BW-19 is the above mentioned style. Guido
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Sorry, I've never used this particular file server before (www.2shared.com) ... just popped up topmost at Google. I definitely don't like this server with all its spamming pop ups. Plus I couldn't even download those files - looks like an uggly Spam trap there ...
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Hm ...
Deselecting "Misc/'Riff' voicing type uses chord tones" AND selecting "OPT/Transpose Down Limit -> 6" AND "Voice Leading -> riff based" makes the pattern play as intended.
What an exercise ...
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Thanks, that did it.
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Some StyleMaker oddities recommend a touch up of some of its functions by PG Music, though.
It's thoroughly murky why a pattern gets transposed down an octave if "OPT/Transpose Down Limit -> 12" is selected and why some transpose actions (on chord tones) happen at all if "OPT/Voice Leading -> riff based" is seleced and "Misc/'Riff' voicing type uses chord tones' happens to be selected as well - with a simple C C C C progression ...
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Maybe somebody of the PG Music staff reads it and puts it onto the appropriate maintenance list.
I meanwhile uploaded the files to docs.google (see post #300287 above) -- even tho' the .sty has been udpdated in the meantime. To achieve the desired malfunction one just needs to set it back to default values.
I definitely appreciate the help. Thank you once again.
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I just ended up at the download page and clicked and had the file. No popups. That being said I use gmail and the 'cookies' show my account and the files I have loaded there, and the page is clean.
I suspect that if you were 'tagged' by email in his google account you too would get there without 'pops and proplems.'
I've used google email (gmail) and the documents function in business for years to great success.
The ability to store a spreadsheet and allow others to see it, or see and modify it with comment is invaluable, and the file sharing of other stuff is great.
There are parts of Google I don't like, as in taking over the world, however I view the inevitable, that all software will actually reside off your computer more or less, and work will be 'cloud' based. Google is almost there, and for that I give them props.
Due to my never having used the style maker, nor having a desire to do so, I won't go any further.
Oliver Gannon seems to have had a lot of input into the system and how it handles things, along with the creator Peter. There are blues studies for piano (I don't guitar) done by pgmusic, and they wrote the style maker so unless someone here who is a user will respond, the proper way to deal with this is through an email to support. Pg may lurk here but this is not advertised as their support forum, it's a user forum.
Often the easiest way around a problem like this is to just enter G/D forcing the bass to play the note you want to hear. Or to simplify the chord to G.
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I just ended up at the download page and clicked and had the file. No popups.
The caveat above referred to a site (2shared.com) that managed to crawl up to the top of the Google list ... and is just a spam site.
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Often the easiest way around a problem like this is to just ...
Nope, John. It's a thoroughly different animal here. No way to lure the StyleMaker into proper operating mode by crude actions such as distorting chords. We have a StyleMaker oddity here.
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To achieve the desired malfunction one just needs to set it back to default values.
There is no such thing as a reset to default values in the StyleMaker. It would be good if you could send a troublesome style (as with 'default' settings) along with a rectified style together with a reference to this thread to Support.
This may help PG Music getting the StyleMaker somewhat more streamlined ... and operating more as expected.
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To achieve the desired malfunction one just needs to set it back to default values.
There is no such thing as a reset to default values in the StyleMaker. It would be good if you could send a troublesome style (as with 'default' settings) along with a rectified style together with a reference to this thread to Support.
This may help PG Music getting the StyleMaker somewhat more streamlined ... and operating more as expected.
I just did.
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Interesting problem, Guido.
I've only used Support a couple of times over the years, it may take them several days to get back to you but they will. Let us know what happens.
My only comment about this is Biab is built specifically to not play exactly what you put into either the Stylemaker or just the chords on the chord grid. This is why there's all those options to allow some control over that. The point of Biab is to try to simulate a band of real live players. Real players won't play a given song exactly the same way every time, there's always some variation and this is what gives Biab a certain level of live feel. Every time you hit play, Biab will regenerate the tracks and each time will be a bit different from the last. If you hear a version you really like, hitting replay will play it again without regenerating it but simply saving the song won't help, when you go into that song again it will regenerate it again. If you want it to stay like that you have to freeze the tracks, then save it.
I don't know if this is relevant to your problem with the Stylemaker or if this is indeed a bug.
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