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No holy grail here. Was working with both PRISM and SMP today. Dropouts in both. But both better than Melodyn which had a ton of ghost notes. In all three cases working with stems. I think it is just as good as it gets for todays tech but will likely get better.
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That's strange, but to start with I would suggest that you close Band-in-a-Box, and open the "DX Settings" folder (in your bb folder). Locate all of the exclude_list* / plugin_list* .txt files and delete them, or even better, just rename or move them somewhere else. Does that fix it?
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Have any Sonar by Cakewalk users tried Prism? Its product page states that it works with it, being an ARA 2-Supporting DAW, but when I try o load it into Sonar, I get an error message stating "ARA host isn't detected". Have reached out to the developer. Meanwhile, have any other Sonar users seen this? A second question, for those who've gotten it to work, regardless of your DAW how would you rate it against the new BIAB feature's take? I've been midi-fying polyphonic audio with Melodyne for a good while, but success has been mixed ; sometimes very competent, other times, ghost notes galore and a pain to clean up, even when the signal is, as recommended, clean and dry. I must say the Prism demo video makes it look like potential holy grail
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If you open the Sforzando plugin from Band-in-a-Box, then click on Settings, there is a "Player Update" button, which is one way to download the update. There is a slightly newer one (1.981) available than the 1.977 version, and it's find to use this in Band-in-a-Box if you want to.
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The numbers in the most recent screenshot here matches what I see in an UltraPAK test, so you definitely have an UltraPAK. I would not suggest comparing "found" vs. "ultrapak" in the category menu - it is most likely considering some Xtra styles to be part of the Ultra, so this is more accurately a "found" vs. "available". In any case we'll try to fix the values reported there, but it may be more useful for us to include a total number at the top and just list found numbers only beside each category, as there could be many reasons for the numbers not to match up. I would also not suggest reinstalling - there are not many situations where a full reinstall is beneficial. If you think you missed one of the RealTracks installers a better approach would be to check the Install Manager (if this was a download), and/or the RealTracks Picker to see if there are any sets reported missing there, and/or the 'What addons' dialog. In the StylePicker, the number right above the list of styles is the total number of styles you have ("xxxx items in list). If you have the most recent build/version of Band-in-a-Box, it knows about all available styles, and you can easily find the total number of available styles by first clearing the filter if you have one, and then going to Other (drop down menu) | Show styles that are found /not found | Show All styles including N/A. Now the number "xxx items in list" will be the total number of PG Music styles available, which as of today is just over 12,600. If you go back to that menu and select ONLY show N/A styles, then you'll see only those styles you are missing. Sort them by category and scroll through them - there may be a few thousand styles but there are only a few categories of styles that are NOT in an UltraPAK - which are styles like Xtra, XPro, and some LoopsPAK.
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For example : Artist performance Set 1 - jazz Swing &Bossa Using the multiPicker library and i see the folder Songs and lessons with a lot of content Don't know how to use these lessons ?
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Wow, this is excellent...loved everything about it...the lyric is so clever and pro-level, I'm always so impressed with your creativity and production Floyd. I have a "someday I'll get to this" lyric idea that I called "Tell me about Lucille"...essentially the same story as yours, except from the new wife's standpoint. Great idea, wonderful track! Tom - thanks for the nice comments Your someday lyric needs to happen. Great idea. I’ll be looking forward to that
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Great job, team J&B on this rockin/jumpin/swinging tune! Janice is flawless again as always! Bud, you walked that bass all over town here and your production work is awesome! Nice job syncing video clips with the audio! Peter playing tasty guitar with great tone! Great work all around! Thanks, TB Good to hear from you! We appreciate ALL of your kind and supportive thoughts. Thanks for mentioning the lip syncing. On our earlier videos it was a challenge but over time has become much easier. Happily Holidays! J&B
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Suno has the ability to elevate songs. This song is perfect. Laurent I'll second that! Plus I just really like the song.
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I'm lost on this one I have only been running 48K for years and BIAB works fine. I can use it in any of the driver modes at 48K. My windows default drivers are set up to 48K. The drop zone supports 48K. What am I missing? Are you using asio drivers ?
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Torrey, You do music right Terrific arrangement Terrific production Strong vocals, exquisite BGVs Excellent use of BIAB Super guitar work. Tasteful fills You and Ron write good stuff. Messages with meaning. Strong title, well used Your melodies are always so interesting. They always surprise me. A truly good thing Fj
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I have the same issue after an upgrade to the Ultrapak 2026, as attached. It would be nice to know how these numbers are derived, if it’s just misinformation or if we’ve been shortchanged of styles. Heaven knows I won’t be reinstalling again, had a nightmare reinstalling the upgrade the first time! Can anyone from PG advise? Cheers.
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Today I received an Email from "Canada Post" with a tracking number, and an estimated delivery date of Dec 24... I assume it is my Biab hard drive... I ordered the Audiophile update on Dec 4.
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Donny, I really enjoyed this. I have been using Suno exactly this way--where I am composer/arranger and Suno is the "hired players", playing precisely what I have written. As part of the on-going AI discussion, I have reservations posting projects like this on this forum, since the references to BIAB are kind of indirect. But since the composition was "built" in BIAB, then played by the Suno crowd at your direction, that seems legit (for this forum). I guess I'm still trying to sort it out. Anyway, I really liked your work and was glad I tuned in! Hey hey, yea there are always going to be someone who says, wait, you used a rhyming dictionary, I call foul, you are cheating. Just makes it easier to love on them. Thanks for the kind words and play on. BTW, I use BiaB to busk, I love it, yea I don't need it, but man does it help. Donny
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That means the ear, not the neural processing. Wrong. You are not understanding basic biology and the Bidelman paper. The brainstem is packed with neurons. And their activity is “well correlated” with consonance according to the findings. You actually bold-faced the section of the conclusion that addresses this. They say “Brainstem responses are well correlated with the ordering of consonance obtained behaviorally . . .” What does this mean? It means that observed brainstem (neural activity) responses correlated well with consonance. This is talking about neural activity, not air pressure to electrical signal transduction in the ear. This brainstem activity is happening downstream of the ear. Then they say “. . . suggesting that a listener's judgment of pleasant- or unpleasant-sounding music may be rooted in low-level sensory processing.” What does “low-level sensory processing” mean? It means that the processing is taking place downstream of the ear and in the brainstem. Obviously, the various parts of the ear are crucial to hearing. These are all subsystems of the overall auditory system. But the ear is primarily a transducer. The heavy-lift processing takes place in the brain and in the brainstem. That is what brains do. Maybe a description of the division of labor and diagrams will help you understand this better. 1. Outer Ear collects sound waves 2. Middle Ear amplifies vibrations 3. Inner Ear breaks down sound into frequency components 4. Brainstem is responsible for early central processing with phase-locking neurons for consonance detection 5. Auditory Cortex and Memory regions aid in music interpretation and recollection.
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I ordered on the 3rd December and its only out for delivery today. (In Benoni, South Africa) Similar here as I ordered on the 2nd of December and still waiting for it to arrive. I'm not worried as PGM has always come through for me.
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I listen to all genres of music. Some I like while others not so much. I keep an open mind when it comes to music. I have learned at least one thing from every genre. It could be a short section, a short bass or lead line, rhythms, chord progressions, etc. I don't speak for any group. I only speak for myself.
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Hi Janne. As is so often the case, you take originality to whole new heights and create a song that it outstanding. I have never once considered the possibility of an intergalactic Santa Claus. After watching your video and listening to you creation, I feel like I've entered a whole new world of possibilities! You've done a great job. This was fun, lively and really enjoyable musical entertainment. --Noel Thanks Noel for your heartwarming feedback  I don't where I got the idea for the intergalactic Santa, but I'm really glad it worked for you Janne
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Lots of energy and hilarious After "Here Comes Solo", I expected Han Solo to show up playing a lightsaber, but of course, you can't have everything. Enjoyed my listen. A lot ![[Linked Image]](https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/images/icons/default/thumbs_up.gif) Thanks BD for your kind and supportive comment Yeah, I forgot to add Han Solo who was in my mind (it should have been nice duelling guitars with Santa...), sorry to disappoint you, but at least I (and Santa) remembered the wookiee  Janne
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Wow, this is really heavy stuff, John Lennon with a stronger substance (called D.Snyder). Lyrics really hit my heart, I really enjoyed "So when the world falls all apart/There’ll be someone we can hold/And it's been that way forever/Cause we can't walk this road alone", great majestic title. Pleasantly classic sounding chord progression. The piano and your voice are the cornerstones of this epic ballad, hope it reaches Christmas Number One all around the world. Glad that you shared your nightmare and told how the ghost inspired you. Janne
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Sad indeed, a subject we usually want to close our eyes to. You depict the situation very powerfully, Berlin hasn't felt as cold and desolate place since I read the book "Christiane F.". "The torn sole of a shoe, broken teeth, the strange checkered jacket/That doesn't quite go with the sweatpants", you are not just writing excellent lyrics, you are telling something that goes to the core. The band has the right elements to bring that mood into our hearts, no big drama, just wind blowing, the vocalist whispering and strings mourning. The vocal melody and lyrics flow very naturally. Touching, makes me think about the underprivileged and the true message of Christmas. Janne
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Thanks Tano Music and TuneMonger, Songs are also meant to surprise. For a blues song, you expect a singer with a deep voice, and I thought a singer with a high voice could be original...
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I'm using the recently mentioned XMAS_P style, putting together O Tannenbaum, but the style is in 4/4. The tune is in 3/4. In Chords view, I changed 4/4 to 3/4 in the tool bar above. This has gotten weird because now every measure has the red udenrline, and there is a Bar Settings change in every bar. Also, each bar has a 3/4 label on it, although the toolbar shows the tune as being in 4/4. Additionally, I think that the 3/4 vs. 4/4 confusion is causing a problem for Real Tracks. If I assign a Real Tracks soloist, it won't generate the solo. I suspect that it has something to do with assigning a Jazz Waltz soloist, but BIAB thinks that the tune is in 4/4(?). What to do?
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They conclude with this: “By examining the subcortical response to musical intervals we found that consonance, dissonance, and the hierarchical ordering of musical pitch are automatically encoded by preattentive, sensory-level processing. Brainstem responses are well correlated with the ordering of consonance obtained behaviorally suggesting that a listener's judgment of pleasant- or unpleasant-sounding music may be rooted in low-level sensory processing. Though music training is known to tune cortical and subcortical circuitry, the fundamental attributes of musical pitch we examined here are encoded even in nonmusicians. It is possible that the choice of intervals used in compositional practice may have originated based on the fundamental processing and constraints of the auditory system.” Note the points of emphasis - low-level sensory processing and fundamental processing and constraints of the auditory system. That means the ear, not the neural processing. But by itself, it's only enough to explain the basic building blocks. How they get used is much more interesting. It's like tension and release in a story, or sweet and bitter in food. Making art is the act of creatively using these elements. And for that, it's a lot more complex to explain because of learned expectations, form, sequence, and a ton of other factors.
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Rusty, Yes, I think you are quickly adapting. Elon and Sam Altman and Mark Zuckerberg promise than within a year Fembots and Manbots will be available to provide all of our romantic needs. There will be no need to ever learn how to speak or talk nicely to a real woman or real man ever again. You can buy one on special at Best Buy! And they will never talk back to you! Sure some grumpy old men will sit in rocking chairs drooling on themselves, saying, "Yepper, I remember back in the good old horse and buggy days when you used to be able to git yer arms 'round a real women and they smelled right purty. But now all the young hipsters tell me all you need is a robot woman, and they're cheaper. I don't think I want me a robot woman though." Those old crankpots need to get with the program!!! Geez! Progress y'all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Survival of the fittest!!!!!!! Wait, can robot women have kids?????
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Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
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Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: AI Stems & Notes - split polyphonic audio into instruments and transcribe
This video demonstrates how to use the new AI-Notes feature together with the AI-Stems splitter, allowing you to select an audio file and have it separated into individual stems while transcribing each one to its own MIDI track. AI-Notes converts polyphonic audio—either full mixes or individual instruments—into MIDI that you can view in notation or play back instantly.
Watch the video.
You can see all the 2026 videos on our forum!
Bonus PAK and 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®
With your version 2026 for Windows Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons for FREE! Or upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!
These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!
This Free Bonus PAK includes:
- The 2026 RealCombos Booster PAK:
-For Pro customers, this includes 27 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
-For MegaPAK customers, this includes 25 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
-For UltraPAK customers, this includes 12 new RealStyles.
- MIDI Styles Set 92: Look Ma! More MIDI 15: Latin Jazz
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 46: Piano & Organ
- Instrumental Studies Set 24: Groovin' Blues Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 19: Songs with Vocals 9
- Playable RealTracks Set 5
- RealDrums Stems Set 9: Cool Brushes
- SynthMaster Sounds Set 1 (with audio demos)
- Android Band-in-a-Box® App (included)
Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
- 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyle.
- FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
- MIDI Styles Set 93: Look Ma! More MIDI 16: SynthMaster
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 47: More SynthMaster
- Instrumental Studies 25 - Soul Jazz Guitar Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 20: Songs with Vocals 10
- RealDrums Stems Set 10: Groovin' Sticks
- SynthMaster Sounds & Styles Set 2 (sounds & styles with audio demos)
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®!
Video: New User Interface (GUI)
Join Tobin as he takes you on a tour of the new user interface in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®! This modern GUI redesign offers a sleek new look with updated toolbars, refreshed windows, and a smoother workflow. The brand-new side toolbar puts track selection, the MultiPicker Library, and other essential tools right at your fingertips. Plus, our upgraded Multi-View lets you layer multiple windows without overlap, giving you a highly flexible workspace. Many windows—including Tracks, Piano Roll, and more—have been redesigned for improved usability and a cleaner, more intuitive interface, and more!
Watch the video.
You can see all the 2026 videos on our forum!
Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 10 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!
Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 21 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 21 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 10 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!
Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 21 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 21 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
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