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thanks Mario, you confirmed the crazyness. Bottom line for me is that this is just how BIAB does things - I will relax. Now we just have to hope the OP can find peace with this situration.
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thanks Noel. OK, Mario, I understand this midi note is "defined as Middle C! And best I can tell when I play middle C on my keyboard I hear Middle C in BIAB. But why then when I play a middle C (which is Studiologic C4), does BIAB's Midi Monitor says it is a C5? Now before you answer. I know about the differing conventions with some keyboards and some DAWs and Music Software, however I have never noticed this discrepancy with BIAB? Is this new? or has BIAB always been like this and I just never noticed? Or do I just need another cup of coffee.  ![[Linked Image]](https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=32792&filename=Screenshot 2026-07-13 105554.jpg) Dan, if you keep drinking coffee you will be a nervous wreck before this is over  No this is not new. BiaB has always called middle C C5. I do know that it can drive me nuts with BiaB MIDI drums. It is in C5 while most of my MIDI drum software is in C4. This is one area where MIDI standards completely missed the boat. Along with middle C being MIDI note 60 it should have said it will be called C4. Actually middle C is called C4 because it is in the middle of the piano so where in hell did C3 and C5 come from? It is not like the MIDI 0-127 and 1-128 controversy, C3 and C5 could be called an octave apart from C4! This is where all of the confusion comes. I hope this helps.
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Hi Rob So sad to hear that a young man with such an obvious vocal talent has passed away. It’s understandable that it’s affected you deeply. This is a lovely recording and a great tribute to Kendall. Regards.
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Rob, Such a tragic story... That's a great song. And a wonderful performance by Kendall. A fine tribute! Bob
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https://soundcloud.com/user-770148857/apple-bite Six years ago, a young fiverr vocalist named Kendall Birdsong sang one of my songs. He was full of that wide-eyed optimism that only the young possess. He wanted to start a serious collaboration with me. I would write songs, he would sing them, and we'd get rich. It took a while for him to understand that I was old and just did this for fun. But I always wanted to work with him again. This year, I finally had a song that I thought suited him. However, his account at fiverr was on hold. After several months, I tried to find him on the Internet. I found him all right. He had died in an auto accident at the age of 25. Threw me for a loop. We only collaborated one time, but I thought I'd repost our song "Apple BIte" as a tribute to him. So here it is. RealTracks in song: 1398:Bass, Electric, Soul70sA-B Ev16 100 RealTracks in style: 1401:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm Soul70sBrightA-B Ev16 100 RealTracks in style: 1404:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm Soul70sWarmA-B Ev16 100 RealTracks in song: 1062:Sax, Tenor, Soloist SmoothJazzCool Sw16 100 RealDrums in Song: JazzFunkPop^1-a:HHSdStk, b:HHSnr Vocals are by Kendall Birdsong and Yona Marie of fiverr Lyrics: We've slowed down so much, I know you feel it too Can't we get in touch, with the things we used to do, I don't know for sure, how much of what I say carries, But I will ensure, answers to all your romantic queries, So let's get busy in the morning, busy through the night, busy in the afternoon Let's stop being boring, take that apple bite, I wanna feel you swoon, We can dance for hours, but keep something in store, Romancing in the bower, we might end up on the floor Time was on our side, but now that's not the case, Life has its own stride, and it's bound to set the pace, But we don't have to act, no no, like a knot upon a tree, We can still react oh yeah to the wonder of you and me Repeat chorus
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I don't use Fender Studio Pro and I didn't know the program has all those features, which seem really interesting and useful, as well as very well implemented. However, FSP is mainly a DAW with analysis and track separation features, whereas SMP is a program specifically designed as a song learning and transcription assistant. In that sense, I think the workflow of both programs is very different; FSP is a complex program mainly aimed at music producers, while SMP, much easier and simpler, is for musicians who simply want to transcribe or study a song, with features specifically designed for that (like phrase or key trainer) . I think both are really interesting depending on your needs.
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Beautiful tune, beautiful video. Congratulations to your granddaughter ... I could not have done what she does, ever; neither now, nor in my youth. Hats off to those who can and do.
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Thanks, Laurent. I have now, following your and others' feedback, removed the 4:03 key change 
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I don't see exactly the folder you are referring to. I didn't find it under anything that was labeled Real Tracks. I can see it in your screenshot - the folder "RealTracks" underneath Preferences... Open that folder, and then open the "Data" folder, and you should see "Style Demos Audio". That's the folder you should rename. The other folder, "Style Demos" in the main Band-in-a-Box folder, you should leave as is.
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The ability to create a tempo map from a MIDI file would be a good feature but currently isn't possible - tempo changes are intentionally excluded when you import MIDI - so the AI answer is incorrect. However, you can use ACW to create a tempo map from an audio file as I think you know. It's fairly easy: 1. You need an audio file of the performance - import this into Band-in-a-Box on the Audio track or a Utility track. Audio menu | Import Audio. 2. Solo the track and add the bar lines by playing the song and pressing the Add Bar Line button in the ACW toolbar. There's nothing else you need to do - this will create a tempo map in the current BB song file. Confirm by pressing F5 and checking the tempo changes. One thing to note - make sure to set the first bar (bar 1) correctly, so that your (audio) performance actually starts on bar 1 of the BiaB song.
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Bonjour, J'utilise BB et RB. J'exporte souvent des pistes de BB en format WAV pour les importer dans RB. Ca marche depuis toujours. Sauf depuis 3 jours. RB accepte d'importer le fichier, je peux l'écouter, MAIS : il refuse d'exécuter des fonctions de l'édition numérique parce que "Ce plugin ne supporte pas les formats 24-bits ou 96k". J'en conclus que d'un seul coup, BB crée des fichiers WAV que RB ne sait plus traiter. J'ai dû modifier qq chose qq part sans le faire exprès, mais quoi ? J'ai essayé l'IA du site PG, je ne comprends pas grand chose... Quelqu'un a une idée ?
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thanks Noel. OK, Mario, I understand this midi note is "defined as Middle C! And best I can tell when I play middle C on my keyboard I hear Middle C in BIAB. But why then when I play a middle C (which is Studiologic C4), does BIAB's Midi Monitor says it is a C5? Now before you answer. I know about the differing conventions with some keyboards and some DAWs and Music Software, however I have never noticed this discrepancy with BIAB? Is this new? or has BIAB always been like this and I just never noticed? Or do I just need another cup of coffee.
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I guess I arrived at this questions when trying to see what range, and key would best suit a session singer. For example, if they say their peak note is E4, then what actually does that mean in relation to the notes I can play on the Big Piano window? I understood E4 means E4 concert pitch, and that is universal. But apparently, E4 concert pitch is called E5 in BIAB? That's correct. Like Fruity Loops and Guitar Pro, BIAB uses C5 as middle C. As Mario points out, for anything MIDI, concert-pitch middle C is always note 60 with a frequency of 261.63 Hz. These numbers are constant. It is only how various manufactures choose to number keys using octave notation that varies.
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The smile on my face. Yep always there when i hear anything you guys do. i'm looking forward to the video. Man, i love the full sound of the harmony. Excellent lyrics --had to scroll back up to see who wrote them, and yep that was my guess. What a fine mix, and of course i love the solo Peter crafted. No one --flat out, no one sings better than Janice. We appreciate every word of that Marty. You mentioned every aspect of the production that we had hoped to enhance with the re-do. Hugely appreciated! J&B
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Hi Dan, The chord output window is one of a few places where PG Music indicate that middle C is note 60. ![[Linked Image]](https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=32791&filename=midi note numbers.jpg) --Noel
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Well that did not take long. AI fails again. In step 3, BIAB does not provide any option to "Import Tempo map or Keep File Tempos". This is pretty much what Noel had suggested. But I have now confirmed again that it does not work. Otherwise, all that F8 stuff in ACW has been controverisal for the past dozen years. I have no interest in doing that since working with tempo maps in 2026 should be a no brainer - push a button. Which it is in everything I use, except BIAB. Am I wrong? No you are not wrong Dan.
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David Excellent track Speaking truth Powerful Good vocals Good mix Real music
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+The organ is fabulous - tone, part & placement. The song is fabulous and the piano is the anchor. Lead parts - on point. Mix...blooody hell it's ace. Thanks ray…. I agree with what you said. I have the same conversation with my students about how can they take any pride in anything that's written by AI. Strong vocal. Good choice on that piano track. It seems to be the glue in the instrumentation. Thanks Scott….
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What? I am finding the same thing here? Not sure I ever noticed this before in BIAB, but my middle C (aka C4) on my SL88 keyboard is named C5 in BIAB. I didn't expect to see this. Mario, I can't see where to verify the Note Number (60) in BIAB? Maybe I need to get my coffee.... Hi Dan, as I stated MIDI note numbers are universal and written in stone. If BiaB was not MIDI note compliant it could not be GM; that is if MIDI note 60 was not middle C then could play or output songs in GM. Here is the universal MIDI note chart: https://audiodev.blog/midi-note-chart/
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Awesome tune Marty. Another very cool vocal and lyric. Your bass lines add so much fullness and melody to your tunes. Perfectly placed. Super production as well.
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Wow what a cool song. Such a cool groove to this tune. Awesome lyric and vocal delivery Janice. I must say Peters guitar was perfect. Bud speaking of perfection this production was out of the world . Well done
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Well that did not take long. AI fails again. In step 3, BIAB does not provide any option to "Import Tempo map or Keep File Tempos". This is pretty much what Noel had suggested. But I have now confirmed again that it does not work. Otherwise, all that F8 stuff in ACW has been controverisal for the past dozen years. I have no interest in doing that since working with tempo maps in 2026 should be a no brainer - push a button. Which it is in everything I use, except BIAB. Am I wrong?
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