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Yeah TuneMonger, I was struggling back then with my music I could only play guitar (which wasn't that great) and harmonica (which was good), but I had no idea how to produce my music. Nor had I the resources. And trying to convince anyone that my "folksy" songs were really good pop songs was, well, difficult. Oh, to have had I BIAB back then!  AurealiusB I remember well what a struggle it was to make a decent demo back then. All of my friends and I had demos but we hadn't a clue how to get them in the right hands. BIAB is indeed a miraculous solution, but has anyone made a commercially successful song with it? I'm not aware of one, does anyone know?. I gotta believe someday it will happen. We'll see.
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Pro Tools Logic (last 20 or so years) Tried RealBand a few times over the years. Never stuck with it.
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Yeah TuneMonger, I was struggling back then with my music. I could only play guitar (which wasn't that great) and harmonica (which was good), but I had no idea how to produce my music. Nor had I the resources. And trying to convince anyone that my "folksy" songs were really good pop songs was, well, difficult. Oh, to have had I BIAB back then!  AurealiusB
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Hi TuneMonger, Thank you for your comments and taking time to provide feedback. Note that Kathy and I wrote this song around 1981. AurealiusB My apologies, AB. Holy Cow, you missed your calling! You coulda had a big hit, maybe!
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I had my moused poised over the Soundcloud link while I was reading your notes about the tree and the birds. After I'd finished, like Andrew above me, I went straight to the video and I'm really glad I did. I always like listening to Liam. He's one of Synth V's easier to use voices and always sound good. You had him sounding very realistic. In fact, when I first started listening, I thought it was you singing because I hadn't read through your notes about instrumentation at that stage. I compliment you on your lyrics. Rhyming 'buffet' and 'prey' is awesome! You've done a great job. The song – music, lyrics and arrangement – are excellent. When I first started listening, my initial thought was "this sounds very professional". I thoroughly enjoyed the music and the videos. --Noel Thanks Noel for your very positive comment  I'm glad you enjoyed the music and the video. I agree what you said about Liam, "always sound good", natural male voice, not aggressive, but not too boyish. Janne
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Beautiful song, Janne. Soars like, uh...a bird. For sure! Very dynamic and dramatic, almost operatic to my ears. The vocalists do some amazing gymnastics while still sounding like humans. GIFTED humans, but still human. Great band. Love the solo. Mix and master is perfect. There's a line "It's been rooted there" where it sounds like the vocalist is singing something else. Listened to it several times. Might just be my old and VERY aged ears. Cool song! Thanks Ron for your uplifting review  I left out "it's" of the vocal track, maybe that's the problem, or a clash with the backing track. Who knows, but it didn't seem to stop you from liking the song  Janne
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First Noel's A World Of Wonder and now Marty's Small Wonders, all excellent feel good, upbeat folky music. The message hits straight to my heart, "the magic of this place" & "Small wonders bring big thrills and paint the day with awe.", we NEED this positive attitude and spiritual connection to the things that really matters, small but the most fundamental wonders  The band is really lovely, magical atmosphere, I'm really glad to hear Pipa, it really highlights how the wonders are worldwide. The vocals are full of warmth and positive confidence. And I absolutely LOVE your video, the fairy-tale mood, happiness and beautiful nature with flowers, and of course all those birds  It should have millions of views if there was any justice in the world. This is your most important song to me, it fully shows your dazzling songwriting talent and your kindness as a person. Janne
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This all would make a good Tips and Tricks post: Where can BIAB files be, and where can they not be? What can be moved? Deleted? I’m thinking at least of installations not allowed into either /Program Files folder in Windows, plus this question. For several years I’ve been interested in understanding more about BIAB file housekeeping. Several outstanding questions.
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Weird and catchy, I can imagine a movie about a college band sounding like this one singing about strange things but the people at the party would dance to it no matter the message - a way to deliver alien/government message to us, the mind controlling content hidden between the lines  I enjoyed the hilarious machine gun crossword puzzle lyrics, although the reality is now more weird, UFOs have been replaced by drones and aliens by the ectoplasmic leaders. Great band, the mix is radio-friendly. The singing and the harmonies are perfect for this type of classic pop. Can't decide whether this is more pastiche-like, parodic or postmodern pop music...or pure fun, anyway, you two are genious songwriters who have drunk the magic potion! Janne
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If you already own an iPhone, that might be all you need! I would think you'd be able to get similar results with an Android phone with a voice memo/recorder app that has a lossless setting that can be enabled. After watching that video, I'm rethinking why I bought all my mics.  My wife has the latest Pro iPhone and I have a Google Pixel and I won't even listen to anyone's music on a phone (without headphones anyway) and I would never even consider using one to record anything other than one of my friends bar / cover bands . . . I had the same opinion as you and Mike about smartphone-recorded audio...until I watched that Spencer video. Perhaps he's being deceptive in some way with the iPhone-recorded vocal, but it sounds more than passable to me. Did you folks check out the comparison at the 4:09 mark? Granted, I think the differences would be more noticeable in an acoustic mix, but I was still impressed that a smartphone mic could hold its own to a Neumann TLM103 (which I happen to own). Would I choose a smartphone over a TLM103 (or any other condenser mic) for vocals in my studio? Most likely not, primarily out of habit, but I would be open to using one if I lost all my mics and was starting over. ...My iPhone 17 Pro has four microphones and no way to control the input... That's a bummer. Why wouldn't an expensive "Pro" phone have that option? Why would it have that option? An iPhone is not designed to be a single source microphone, pure and simple. Apple has some serious AI going on in there to try to get the best sound from that 4-mic array. Notice that the guy in the video emphasized room treatment? Of course he did — those other three microphones are still active; nothing anyone can do about that. And then there was all the processing. A hell of a lot of effort spent and time wasted to “prove” that my $1,400 iPhone is as “good” as a $1,300 TLM 103 (not a mic I would use on my voice)… Yeah, well it isn’t and no amount of that guy waving his arms changes this. Now, let’s go back to the OP who asked about the AT 2020, a pretty good mic that can be purchased for $119 new. Put that up against a TLM 103 instead—many YouTube videos doing just that. The 2020 is pretty good and fairly neutral, a mic I could use—I prefer neutral mics such as my TLM 193 unless I want something edgier and I have U 87s and FET 47s for that. If I had to move 50 people ten miles, which is better—a Ferrari or a bus? There’s a lot to be said about using the right tool for the job.
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Hi John, Thanks for your comments and discourse on the song title. But note Kathy and I wrote this song back around 1981. AurealiusB
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Hi floyd. As far as I'm aware, the soloist folder is required and it needs to be in the \bb folder. I don't know this for certain, but my reasoning is that the ST2 and XT2 files in that folder are the files that map Realtracks and tell the program where in the Realtrack C chords, G7 chords, etc., are located so that a Realtrack can be diced and spliced to create a track that follows the chord progression on the chordsheet. The thread below is an earlier discussion on this topic. In this thread, mention is made of software that can be used to redirect a path. I don't know if that works or not. https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=793305#Post793305 I also have a vague recollection that someone from PG Music also once responded to post and said that the Soloist folder couldn't be moved. I tried to find the post but couldn't. --Noel P.S. I've just had a look at the link in BD's post. The message from Andrew is the one that I had that above vague recollection of.
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Hello, We recommend only having the RealTracks and Drums folders in a separate location from the main program. Thank you! Catherine
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Hi TuneMonger, Thank you for your comments and taking time to provide feedback. Note that Kathy and I wrote this song around 1981. AurealiusB
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Hi Hans, Thanks so much for your positive comments. I really appreciate it, AurealiusB
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Quite the can of worms about song titles, though not as much as similar or exact melodies. Song titles and phrases could fit well as a songwriting topic and for reasons of being able to distinguish yourself from another artist, finding a unique title would be something you'd want to do. There are some instances that defy that as everything in entertainment is fickle. Shortly after the Eagles had a #1 hit with "Best of My Love," so did the Emotions with the same title." Hamilton, Joe Frank & Reynolds had a #1 with "Games People Play." When the Spinners released "Games People Play," they were challenged with the title so they changed it to "They Just Can't Stop It." The Copyright Office declared a song title cannot be registered as a copyright. Joe South and the Alan Parsons Project also had songs titled, "Games People Play." Brian Wilson objected to Katy Perry's "California Gurls" but there wasn't anything he could do about it. There are artists who purposefully avoided the same title as not to be confused. The Cowsills, "Rain, Park and Other Things" was originally tilted "The Flower Girl." to avoid confusion with Scott McKenzie's "San Francisco (Be Sure to Wear Flowers in Your Hair)". I think there was another artist, Paula Abdul, who had an album called "Shut Up and Dance." I would personally base it on how unique a title is. I'd be okay with "Dance With Me" but I wouldn't name a song, "A Horse With No Name."
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The "Soloists" folder under the bb folder uses 19GB of space. I would like to recover that space if possible. (I would leave the folder, but move the files to another drive in case I ever change my mind) It is made up entirely of .ST2 and .XT2 files. WHEN are these files used. Are they only used if you select the Soloist menu??? - I never do that. When I need solos, I simply load an RT (a soloist RT). Are the files in the Soloist Folder involved then? (or only if you select the Soloist Menu item?)
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Hi Bob. I listen and think, John Prine. Excellent real life lyric. I think an acoustic guitar strum would fit right in on the chorus. Vic
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The song is good and I enjoyed it. Although it is legal to copy song titles, this title by Walk the Moon from 2014 is so distinctive and such a huge hit that, personally, I would not have done it. But not a big deal here on the forum.
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Nice job, Rob! Nicely written and arranged. Very authentic to the genre without sounding badly cliched. LOVE your harp work, and the acoustic sound is fine to my ears. (Am sure most guitar amp plugins could approximate a mic'd harp sound, not that you need it.)The vocals are VERY serviceable and have a nice raspy character. They serve the song well. But I've especially enjoyed your recent vocals, so they/you are missed.Super band, mix and master. Now you just need to send the master down to the factory so we can get those records pressed.:) Thanks, Ron, for the very nice review! I will sing next time out, but I'm running out of public domain songs that I can get a halfway decent vocal with. I have been trying so hard to sing "Blue Skies" but I just can't pull it off. I love that song but it's tricky. However I did a fair version of "Sunny Side of the Street" and that will be next. After that it will probably be back to Suno each time out. I have quite a back log of Suno songs, actually.
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Hi Aurealius, This version of your very nice song, with the harmonies, makes it much nicer. I searched on the forum for that version I comented on, but could,t find it. As I said. This is much more dynamic! Hans
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Hej. Jeg har før kunnet slette 4 takter (f.eks. en uønsket intro) i 2019 versionen ved blot at markere de takter jeg ville slette, for derefter at slette dem uden at det gik ud over hvornår melodistemmen startede. I 2026 udgaven oplever jeg at efter jeg har slettet de 4 takter og starter melodien, afspiller den stadig de første 4 takter som var det introen, og starter først melodistemmen i takt 5, og nu afspilles alle akkorder 4 takter forsinket. Er der en kløgtig sjæl der kan løse dette problem ? Hilsen Erik
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Thanks, Aurealius. Nice to hear those comments. Vic
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All you need to do is select the midi track in the mixer and drag it to the drop box in upper left of the screen and make sure you drop it on the box that says midi. BIAB saves the file in a folder called DragDrop. Hope this helps.
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