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Hi there Pete, A big number there, full of emotions and passion. You have a big, dare I say, C&W sounding voice there, is that your preferred genre? I agree, you were a bit pitchy in places but like all of us, we push to see how much we can get away with. But I'm sure you have it in you to clean those up. A good production and mix, enjoyed my listen. Kind regards
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Hi Ron Resolution challenge completed. Really nice choice of style and the key change at the bridge(?) worked really well. Good vocals, you have a smooth delivery, you never seem to have blips or rawness like I do. Another good'un, Kind regards
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Hi Joe, Very relatable as the common man's lament. A great song, excellent lyrics and arrangement. Excellent, kind regards
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But, as incorrectly indicated above, the 6th is not perfect. It is either major or minor. You got me there! I'm 100% wrong with my terminology!  But I was wrong about much, much more than that!  Because I was in at a doctor's visit with my wife where I couldn't watch any videos on my phone, I stupidly asked Gemini to look up what Adam said about power chords. That's on me, because I know better. Because while Gemini cited sources and gave a summary, that was a hallucination, and I was happy with it returning an answer that aligned with what I wanted, so I didn't wait and look into it further instead tippy-tappy-typing on my phone. Now that I'm back at my computer, I've been able to double-check the information and while the information is correct, Adam never said those things. But again that's my mistake. I should have checked the source myself, because I know better. When I couldn't find the information that Gemini claimed was in the video, I asked Gemini to explain where the answer came from. It hallucinated this response: Adam Neely often discusses power chords through the lens of psychoacoustics and tonality, rather than just simple guitar technique... It turns out to be completely untrue. When I asked Gemini to find a specific video where he made that claim, Gemini hallucinated: Adam Neely discusses the perception of the third in power chords most explicitly in his video titled "What's in between Major and Minor chords? | Q+A" (and occasionally in his analysis of blues tonality). He explains that while a power chord consists only of a root and a fifth, the 5th harmonic in the overtone series is a pure major third. When you add distortion to a guitar signal, you are essentially "squashing" the waveform, which drastically increases the amplitude of these higher overtones. The citation looks good, but of course, there's nothing of the sort in the video. When I asked where Neely talks about the fifth harmonic, Gemini hallucinated: Adam Neely discusses the audibility of the 5th harmonic in the video titled "Why is major 'happy?'" (2016) and refers to it in several Q&A videos. Again, that wasn't true. Gemini hallucinated: I apologize for that error. You are correct—the video "Why is major 'happy?'" focuses on the concept of brightness and cultural associations rather than the physics of the harmonic series. I conflated two different videos in my previous response. The specific explanation you're looking for—where he discusses the 5th harmonic being perceived as a major third in distorted power chords—actually appears in his video: "What's in between Major and Minor chords? | Q+A" When told that didn't appear in the video, Gemini hallucinated again: I believe the video I was searching for is actually "The Blues Scale is a Lie" (or a very similar deep dive into blues tonality). In that video, he discusses the "neutral third" and how guitarists use power chords to avoid a strict major/minor choice, while the overtone series from the distortion provides the "major" foundation. There was no such video by Adam Neely. Gemini hallucinated: I am very sorry for the confusion. I have been referencing concepts that Adam Neely frequently discusses in his videos, but I have repeatedly given you the wrong video titles and incorrect transcript details. I was mistaken about "The Blues Scale is a Lie"—no such video exists with that title on his channel. The video you are looking for is titled "Why 'Smells Like Teen Spirit' sounds so powerful" (or a very similar title focusing on Nirvana/Grunge). In his video "The Music Theory of Grunge" (and specifically in his discussion of "Smells Like Teen Spirit"), he breaks down the physics of the power chord. Here is the actual information from that context... And when told that no such video existed, Gemini finally said: I understand your skepticism. After a thorough search of Adam Neely's video catalog to find the specific explanation you’re looking for regarding power chords, distortion, and the 5th harmonic, I have determined the following: The concept I previously described—that power chords work because distortion generates harmonics that "fill in" the missing major third (the 5th harmonic)—is a common music theory explanation, but I cannot find a video where Adam Neely specifically makes this claim. Lesson learned: From now own, I'll wait until I'm on my computer and do my own darned research instead of cutting corners and relying on Gemini to give accurate summaries. Personally, I don't really care if people want to think of a "power chord" as a chord or not. Music theory is a system for organizing an understanding about how music works, not a monolithic thing. If a set of pitches has a harmonic function and you feel the need to call it a chord... go for it. Or not. 
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Thats a real toe-tapper Marty, You can always tell when someone gets the mix right. The song jumps out of the speakers and you start looking around the room to see where it's coming from. Big number, well played and sung.... the band is staying together!! Kind regards
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Note that we aren't arguing for an interval like the perfect sixth to be treated as a chord. And in practice, power chords are almost always played on distorted guitars or basses. Neely agrees that it acoustically gains the "missing" third, which is why it can be treated as a chord. . With all respect! Please forgive me for even mentioning this. I hate to bring it up, but I am a music nerd if nothing else! I actually tried to avoid this whole discussion because this general topic can drive people crazy (when it really should not). And I agree everyone has been very polite. But, as incorrectly indicated above, the 6th is not perfect. It is either major or minor. Only the unison, forth and fifth are perfect. And that point about "...Neely agrees that it acoustically gains the missing third" does not make sense to me and I did not hear him say that? Finally, regarding my credentials which were questioned above, I have three certificates from Berklee, two in Music Theory and one in Jazz Guitar performance [at the moment I can not find that 3rd one, maybe my memory is mistaken, but I have the other two on my wall along with my PhD. I have to admit, those records, plus a buck, would get me a cup of coffee at McDonalds (with the Sr Discount) and not much more. But I am proud of my studies. And again, more music nerd than academically trained in music.  I can’t comment on the debate regarding the 6th . . . way beyond my pay grade but maybe someday . . . if I'm lucky However, I do have to agree that we’ve all been polite, professional and relatively focused on the subject(s) at hand. If I pull the camera back and zoom out, this thread is mainly about Levitin’s book, This is Your Brain on Music. Secondarily, and right now, it’s about the fascinating musical relationship between Joni’s ambiguous chords and Jaco’s skill in dis-ambiguating them. And now, the idea of what a chord is, what are ambiguous chords and other music theory elements. And the path of this thread may even take more twists and turns . . . it’s all good and my hope is that we all learn (and share) and that we remain friends. The more I read, the more I see that music is infinite and infinitely fascinating. Dr Dan, as for your credentials, my instincts told me you had some but I had no idea they were as distinguished as they are. Ten short years ago I couldn’t tell you the difference between F and F# or quarter note from a half note. I also agree that there should be no reason whatsoever that discussing music theory should drive anyone crazy. That said, I’m sure we all have something of value to share and I hope you share more. I also hope I’m not the only one here seeking to grow musically. Also, let’s not forget the young, talented, educated musicians that are lurking and pondering whether to support this forum and BiaB. The depths of our discussions here, how we conduct ourselves and the (perceived and real) value of BiaB will determine the size of the user base for years to come.
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That is sooo good Mario, I'm not a big fan of orchestral music, but even I can tell you've made an exceptional piece of music here. It must be a completely different process of writing compared to writing a pop song. How do you write that and hear all that in your head and get it down? And then know which instruments to bring in and out of the mix. Your a very clever man, Andre Preview (M&W fans will understand) Excellent, kind regards
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Thank you rharv, you are finally starting to understand my humor!
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And again, more music nerd than academically trained in music. OK, I admit, that one made me giggle
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Hi there Mick, That's a great sound and mix you've got together there. It really does have that 80s Stock, Aitken, Waterman, big production feel. I like the vocals and the effects suit the song, but I would have like to hear a clean vocal...but thats just my personal preference, it works well as it is. Great song, kind regards.
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Note that we aren't arguing for an interval like the perfect sixth to be treated as a chord. And in practice, power chords are almost always played on distorted guitars or basses. Neely agrees that it acoustically gains the "missing" third, which is why it can be treated as a chord. . With all respect! Please forgive me for even mentioning this. I hate to bring it up, but I am a music nerd if nothing else! I actually tried to avoid this whole discussion because this general topic can drive people crazy (when it really should not). And I agree everyone has been very polite. But, as incorrectly indicated above, the 6th is not perfect. It is either major or minor. Only the unison, forth and fifth are perfect. And that point about "...Neely agrees that it acoustically gains the missing third" does not make sense to me and I did not hear him say that? Finally, regarding my credentials which were questioned above, I have three certificates from Berklee, two in Music Theory and one in Jazz Guitar performance [at the moment I can not find that 3rd one, maybe my memory is mistaken, but I have the other two on my wall along with my PhD. I have to admit, those records, plus a buck, would get me a cup of coffee at McDonalds (with the Sr Discount) and not much more. But I am proud of my studies. And again, more music nerd than academically trained in music.
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Mario this is absolutely fabulous! The whole flow of the piece is, imo, masterful, beautiful and very moving. I'm blown away and only wish I had a modicum of your musical talents. So glad I listened to this, thank you. Pete
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Hi Pete! Happy New Year to you - or I should say, hoping for a better year for you, genuinely. The emotion really comes out of your vocal - that emotion (to my ears anyway) is saying ‘Why did you?’ Your vocal (well done on the high notes - it adds rawness) was aided greatly by the steel guitar, fiddle and that good choice of lead solo on the fade out. Your choice of waltz style adds to the perplexity because it is a dance normally performed by two. As usual, thanks for the video of BIAB - it’s good to look ‘under the hood’, and good to see you already putting BIAB2026 to work! Hoping to hear more from you, Pete. Andrew Hi Andrew, Wow, what a lovely review. You got the whole gist of the song and for that I'm truly grateful. Your comment is more than appreciated. Best wishes Pete
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Great. Thanks for the feedback. I tried several combinations also, but like you, I couldn't get a fill from the forthcoming style.
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IMHO If two notes are a chord, that chord is pretty ambiguous. rharv, I think you are finally beginning to get it (I think). Nobody is saying that every chord must be unambiguous for it to be labeled a chord, certainly not me. As a matter of fact, I wouldn't be surprised if certain musicians/composers intentionally write ambiguous, discordant, unresolved chords into their music. I would say that ambiguous chords are every bit a chord as unambiguous ones. Think of it this way, just because an automobile fails your State inspection, doesn't mean that it's somehow not an automobile. In fact, that automobile could be on its roof in a gully and half rusted and still be an automobile. Trust me I get it. You are starting down the theory road, my tracks in the sand ahead of you have been blown over for decades. But I still learn to this day. I chose to participate in this thread to learn what I could from it. I'm not arguing any of this, since it is theory and not a rule, and even rules can be broken. I spent years in college (and after) studying theory, arranging, composing etc tutored by some very knowledgeable people. Not Berklee, but UNT & UofM level. In fact I was raised with it since I could first learn. I did not get a choice of first instrument to learn; it was piano (at 5) so I could learn theory not just notes. I was lucky and got a head start on it compared to many. Music is kind of a big deal in my family <grin> My youngest brother is a PHD and has been asked to conduct/teach in Europe, Carnegie, etc Many years later we still discuss theory and learn from each other. That's what it's all about! Having some understanding of it definitely helps when discussing it, and he is not shy to correct me at times (and neither should anyone else be)
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If anyone disagrees, here is something to ponder. What “rule” in music theory prevents 2 pitches from being labeled a chord? The "rule" is the definition, which makes a distinction between an interval/dyad and a chord/triad. But music theory always trails practice, and it's an oft-cited maxim that when a style or practice can be codified using music theory, that style is dead. It's also well known that much music theory that claims to capture the "rules" (like those of Bach's counterpoint) often is a list of that author's own biases, rather than an accurate model of actual practice. The crux of Neely's argument is that functionally, a power chord acts like a chord, even though it lacks a third. It provides enough harmonic information to act as a complete chord. He notes that it gains an audible third via distortion and harmonics, so the third is present even in the player didn't play the note. But it's more than that - he argues the term "chord" should describe how a chord behaves in practice, and not be bound by theory texts. The fact that we call it a "power chord" despite only being an interval supports this. So Neely - and others - argue for moving away from the classical definition because it doesn't reflect actual practice. But the classical definition still has value. Note that we aren't arguing for an interval like the perfect sixth to be treated as a chord. And in practice, power chords are almost always played on distorted guitars or basses. Neely agrees that it acoustically gains the "missing" third, which is why it can be treated as a chord. In short, Neely argues that if music theory doesn't represent common practice, it has little value. Yet he acknowledges that in practice, a power chord gains the "missing" third. And I think that somewhat undercuts the argument that a power chord is a dyad or interval.
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Hi Mario! There’s ’s a lot to like about this piece … - The ‘shimmering’ feel of the strings - for a similar evocative effect, listen to ‘Daphnis and Chloe suite no. 2:Daybreak’ by Maurice Ravel
- The interplay of the brass and reeded instruments
- The punctuation of the timpani
- The glorious gong and cymbals at the end
A great piece which triggers imagery in one’s mind! Andrew
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Hi Pete! Happy New Year to you - or I should say, hoping for a better year for you, genuinely. The emotion really comes out of your vocal - that emotion (to my ears anyway) is saying ‘Why did you?’ Your vocal (well done on the high notes - it adds rawness) was aided greatly by the steel guitar, fiddle and that good choice of lead solo on the fade out. Your choice of waltz style adds to the perplexity because it is a dance normally performed by two. As usual, thanks for the video of BIAB - it’s good to look ‘under the hood’, and good to see you already putting BIAB2026 to work! Hoping to hear more from you, Pete. Andrew
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Nice one Andrew, Good narrative and melody too. Nice playing adds even more of you to the magic. Thank you Ray - for your ears and constructive ideas during the last year. Sounds old, but not in a bad way. Reminds me of something the Beatles might have done, probably because of your vocals and the way the bass line walks down in the chorus. Pretty good Thanks B.D.! Referencing the likenesses is very motivating for me - thanks! Cool groove to this song. Really liked the energy changes. Excellent vocal and lyric. The cool thing about BIAB is that it some how keeps everything interested so you still want to play after the novelty wears off. Then the music starts to flow. Happy New Year and look forward to hearing your knew songs. Thanks Scott! I agree - BIAB enabled me to turn my song ideas into something I could demo - all the way back to the old midi version in 2001 and not forgetting my use of PowerTracks back in those days as well. Thanks for listening! Andrew
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IMHO If two notes are a chord, that chord is pretty ambiguous. rharv, I think you are finally beginning to get it (I think). Nobody is saying that every chord must be unambiguous for it to be labeled a chord, certainly not me. As a matter of fact, I wouldn't be surprised if certain musicians/composers intentionally write ambiguous, discordant, unresolved chords into their music. I would say that ambiguous chords are every bit a chord as unambiguous ones. Think of it this way, just because an automobile fails your State inspection, doesn't mean that it's somehow not an automobile. In fact, that automobile could be on its roof in a gully and half rusted and still be an automobile.
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Thanks. I am now more vigilant about what might be running in the background because you are right, it’s another something to check. I have most ‘auto updates’ off, but there are some like virus updates that can slip in. And here’s a thought: maybe it isn’t Windows, but the malware checkers checking the new version of Windows!
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Hello, As Andrew mentioned, this will be corrected in the next patch, but in the meantime, you could download and reinstall RealTracks Set 481. To access that download, please: - close Band-in-a-Box - go to your download URL in your order confirmation email and click the URL - at the bottom of the download section, you will see the green text "Show all downloads...", please click that checkbox - scroll down to RealTracks Sets 480-482 (Windows) and click download - after it has downloaded, please install to the correct folder locations of your Band-in-a-Box and RealTracks/RealDrums. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact us directly. Best, Catherine
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Because somebody called two notes played simultaneously a chord but based on music theory that has been taught for years it takes three or more notes to form a chord. Mario, David and rharv, with all due respect I must cast my lot with Adam Neely, Wikipedia and Dr Dan unless proven otherwise because it comes down to knowledge and trust. These 3 sources conclude that a chord is made up of 2 or more pitches. Adam Neeley chooses his words very carefully, is well-studied, is highly credentialed (Berklee College of Music and the Manhattan School of Music) and has lots to lose if he puts out bogus info. The guy is a music geek, and we need geeks! I’m unaware of anyone else on the internet in his lofty category. Do you? Wikipedia also has strong credentials, is fact-checked by experts worldwide, is thoughtfully edited and is trusted by millions around the world. Dr Dan is a smart guy too, I’ve never seen him give wrong info, and he chooses his words carefully. Although I don’t know his music credentials per-se, clearly he is well-studied in the subject. What these 3 sources recognize is that any music theory truth goes beyond and transcends what one was taught by a childhood music teacher, or what one was taught in high school, or what one’s personal opinions may or may not be or even less-than-accurate websites that are casually uploaded. Music theory is a well thought out and established set of principles that over time “get written in stone”. I think I can say this even though I’m a beginner student of the subject myself. Like I say, if someone can convincingly show credible evidence that a 2-pitch dyad can never be a chord, I’m all ears. Power chords (1-5) immediately come to mind. Keep in mind, I’m not saying that said chord must be pleasing to the ear, unambiguous, make geometric sense on a guitar fretboard or any other artificial restriction. If anyone disagrees, here is something to ponder. What “rule” in music theory prevents 2 pitches from being labeled a chord?
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We'll make sure this is fixed in the next patch.
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Thanks Audio Track. That does add a drums fill but it's not from the new style. At least I have a held chord with a fill so this will do for now.
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