Joe's Apology - SoundcloudJoe's Apology - YouTube Happy Easter to all BIAB users. Joe's Apology is my first published foray into finger picking. Fortunately for all of you, this is an instrumental so you wont hear any of my dulcet tones. So this tune came about as a challenge within our guitar group by our third member, not Andrew Dee. The challenge was to do something else with the chord progression C G D A E (circle of fifths) as was used by Jimi on Hey Joe. We weren't limited (as far as I'm aware) to keep it a completely Major progression, so that's where I've sourced my variation using minor, sus, maj7 chords etc. I don't profess to being a fluent finger picker, I have to reach saturation practice point before I can get it to a point of acceptable fluidity. As you will hear with this recording, it's a steady picking pattern, nothing too fancy. Any comments on the mix would be welcome. I've listened through 2 sets of headphones, PC speakers and even the TV. They all vary in which tone and instruments they accent, I do need to invest in a set of reasonable monitor speakers. As you may or may not know, Hey Joe is a song about a man who kills his partner and flees to Mexico. This is sort of like a sequel, where he is captured and is remorseful for his actions. Don't examine the still AI images too intensely, AI can be nonsensical. I'm releasing this ahead of our groups scheduled get together next Wednesday, sorry Andrew, I've been sat on it for several weeks now and I'm in need of some community cheer. I also need to get my fingers in gear ready for Wednesday. I hope you all find it acceptable. Kind regards. PS Get those fingers loosened Mr.Dee. INTRO: Am / / / Am / / / Gm / / / Gm / / / Am / / / Am / / / Gm / / / Gm / / / PRE VERSE C / / / C / / / Dm / / / Dm / / Am#5 / / / Am#5 / / / C / / / C / / / C / / / C / / / Dm / / / Dm / / / Am#5 / / / Am#5 / / / C / / / C / / / VERSE C / / / Csus4 / / / C / / / Csus4 / / / Gm / / / Gm / / / Dm / / / Dm / / / Am#5 / / / Dm/A / / / Am / / / Asus2 / / / Em / / / EmMaj7 / / / Em7 / / / Em6 / / / BRIDGE Gm / / / Gm / / / Am / / / Am / / / Gm / / / Gm / / / Dm / / / Am / / / repeat PRE VERSE repeat VERSE repeat BRIDGE OUTRO C / / / C / / / Dm / / / Dm / / / Am#5 / / / Am#5 / / / C / Csus4 / Csus4 C Title: Joe's Apology File:Joe's Apology.SGU Key=C , Tempo 104, Length (m:s)=3:48 Style is _CMPFBF3.STY (Campfire, Fingerpicked and Strum) RealTracks in style: ~712:Bass, Acoustic, Bossa Ev 085 (A:simple) RealTracks in style: ~~405:Guitar, Acoustic, Strumming Ev 120 RealTracks in song: 3064:Vocal Oohs, Rhythm Pop3-part Ev 085 There is also a Cello Realtrack which has been lost on my SGU Guitar: Seagull Coastline acoustic.
I think what I wrote above got lost (Use the Utility tracks. When you have the harmony the way you like it, copy it to a Utility track. Do this as often as you need to do to build your song.) but it really is the key to building arrangements in BIAB. I’m a pro composer and arranger. Since recent versions of BIAB gave us more than the Melody and Soloist tracks, then one Audio track, I can stay in BIAB a lot longer now before I move to my notation program and DAW. As for the learning curve, I look at it this way: I’ve used BIAB commercially for 34 years and I’m glad I can learn something new about it every day because it’s that powerful.
Hi Herb! Great song and well sung and played. That mandolin that you kept from BIAB just kept going and provided a good foundation for the music - I liked the rhythm of it. There are many lyric lines to like, but one that stood out to me is ‘And this old heart beats steady where the sky and forest meet.’ Where I live in the ‘burbs of Adelaide, we have a couple of areas of native scrub within 1km from our home that have not been touched since time immemorial, apart from the odd walking track or fire track, and it’s very peaceful for the soul to walk through it from time to time. Enjoyed my listen. Andrew
My morning walk in the woods, I have 28 acres with 2 creeks, with my dogs, is such a peaceful experience and a great way to start each day. It gives me time to think about the day and I'll often come up with song ideas. I'm glad you related to the song
Very groovalicious, Vic! Superb Knopfler-esque sound to my ears, with a hearty tip of the hat to Townshend. This style really suits you, and you've posted a banger of a song here. That's a cool story about The Detours, though I'm sometimes not quite sure of the larger-than-life stories that come with a post by David... Great tune!
Hi Noel! I really enjoyed the shift from the verse in the minor to the chorus in the relative major - if that’s what it was - cool anyway. I was trying to work out the instrument playing in between verse and chorus - I couldn’t tell if it was a guitar or synth - but sounded arpeggiated? Nice sounding anyway. Another piece of positive work from you. I’m intrigued by your inspiration for lyric writing - drums playing in the background - that’s a new one! Andrew
Hi Andrew. Thanks for dropping in I appreciate your listen and comments. The song did indeed go from a verse in A minor to a chorus in C major. The instrument playing between the chorus and the verse is Synthmaster 3. This in a MIDI-driven arpeggiator. A free version of the software comes with BIAB. I've upgraded to Synthmaster 3 which I picked up at a really generous price (they have a few sales throughout the year). There are lots of videos on YouTube about how to use the software if you want ideas for your own songs. Thanks again for the visit! --Noel
Should have clicked this much sooner. Brilliant. "Really, who has the TIME???" Ha! Might want to add "SATIRE" to the subject line so this doesn't get confused with the stuff that only Reaper folks should watch. EVERYONE should watch this. Like the finished song. Sounds like a Bowling for Soup song in the vein of "1985".
Just a bit more on Jim's good advice. With the topic you mention, the "Most" option should do it. [The "All" option also affects choice of drivers.] Either one will prompt you to Save your preferences first, and when you get things where you want them, do a separate Save so you will have settings you can recover.
Ha: gallery/salary/calories - that’s right up my alley. I wish I had a lyricist like the one you have. COOL band, the drummer gives the song a touch of punk. Great vocals, perfect harmonies, catchy like hell. Perfect in every aspect, I wouldn't change a thing
From Lost in Time Vol I (original songs from the 80s) The BIAB "Foundation" tracks (Style: _UKBIGRK): Drums: RealDrums=NashvilleEven8 Bass: 683:Bass, Electric, PopHalfNotesPush Guitar1: 524:Guitar, Acoustic, Strumming Guitar2: 1000:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm HardRockLAFuzzyHeld Guitar3: 998:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm HardRockLACrispSync Recorded tracks: Vocal VerseVocal Verse HarmonyVocal ChorusVocal Chorus Harmony1Vocal Chorus Harmony2Vocal Chorus Harmony3Organ (with vibrato added, played in Bridge) Harmonica1 (played in instrumental Chorus) Harmonica2 (background in Bridge) Harmonica3 (harmony to Harmonica2) Written and produced by AurealiusB with lyrics by Kathy Keogh Key: E Mixed and mastered with Reaper DAW
J&B IT may not be "everyone's genre" but it sure works for me! It amazing how 3 chord blues stands the test of time! Never gets old! That velvet voice of Janice's was the perfect touch here! You know a singer is good when they record doubled vocals and they aren't a distraction. They sit very well in this one. Peter once again laid down some sizzling guitar lines A very good, professionally done production that sounds super to me! Thanks, TB
Thank you Torrey! This was only our second doubling attempt in all the years we've recorded vocal. It's quick and fun. Glad you liked them. Yes, Peter sizzled indeed. And thanks for mentioning the production. We spent a lot of time on the BiaB tracks. Hugely appreciated! J&B
Hi Esa! I listened to your song on Soundcloud - I hope it’s the right one? Soundcloud - Ain’t she sweet I know this song well, and your version doesn’t disappoint. I love the swing to it, and your solo in the middle is very enjoyable. Good vocal as well! Loved it! Andrew
Excellent remake and it definitely “pops” more with the changes and addition of Marty’s new bass. The lyric is very interesting and the video clips are so enjoyable and supportive. Chris’s vocal and piano are great and the MT piano track fits perfectly. Your guitar works it’s magic all through the song, Dave. Thanks for the mix notes: It sounds great. Those drums pop. We use an older version of Neutron for unmasking … need to get that version! The new vocal fx chain is ace. It sits perfectly. Is the reverb via Nectar? Another fine remake! J&B
Great backstory, performance and production. We just came in from a mellow coffee session on our front porch. Listening to birds and watching the new spring greenery was a perfect setup for this tune. Both your tone and chops on the Taylor and excellent! J&B
Your catchiest tune yet, the chorus is earworm city. Love all the production touches you mentioned. Vocals are the star attraction, as always. I would love to see a vdeo for this using clips from the cult kitsch flick "Plan 9 from Outer Space." Lots of nice rhymes in the lyric. Another winner in your streak of hits.
THANKS, Rob! I'd love to see a video, too. Have done a couple but find them to be FAR more work than I'm into. AI seemed like a good option for cranking out music videos once, but I found the results too disturbing. Just can't bridge that uncanny valley...
Tamed well enough indeed. Yea! A happy ending love song! Your vocal was great at creating the longing and hopefulness of the song’s fella. The video’s characters reminded Janice of Toy Story’s Woody and Jessie with their smiles. Cool! As always, a strong band with great performances by you. And Dave’s guitar was icing on the cake. Nice mix and, man, your bass cuts through perfectly. So many mixes are missing that. Enjoyed it, J&B
No, this issue is not resolved. I have been using BIAB for years (at least 10). Viewers of my posts should not only know that BAIB 2024 had this functionality, but previous versions had two play buttons, and this was great because one of the buttons (I think the green one) allowed for non-destructive playing/previewing highlighted styles playing the song's current chords.
#3, the loud/quiet/register options, I like it. +1 Your #1 point about the length and/or speed of a fade out is a request that appears here frequently. I've heard of at least one workaround [without using audio editing in BIAB or elsewhere] by reducing the number of beats per bar so volume (or tempo) changes can be made more frequently. I believe the main solution someday is to support non-integer fades and tempos. Absent that, allow changes of volume and tempo more often than a measure at a time, on the beat level. A couple of wild guesses if I may, about #2, the pops afterward, which may deserve its own post: Sometimes I extend the length of a song and use a 'stop' chord like C. to be sure all sound ends. Something you can check if you hear a 'pop' or 'thunk' type sound is, do you have the song looping on? You might be hearing the song begin repeat, with something on the drum track. This has been noticed in the past on a few earlier versions of BIAB. Mute each track and see if you can isolate the offending sound. If it is guitar, then I don't know, but it's not unheard of for an individual RealTrack to have spurious noise on it, and if you report it with an example recording, they can find and fix it. Or it may be none of these things. Can you tell us which version of BIAB you use? Can you post a link to an audio recording of the problem you are hearing?
I've got a solid framework so I'm going to see what I can do with BB. Probably gonna start again from scratch. I'll keep everyone posted on my attempts
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I appreciate your listen and comments. The song did indeed go from a verse in A minor to a chorus in C major. The instrument playing between the chorus and the verse is Synthmaster 3. This in a MIDI-driven arpeggiator. A free version of the software comes with BIAB. I've upgraded to Synthmaster 3 which I picked up at a really generous price (they have a few sales throughout the year). There are lots of videos on YouTube about how to use the software if you want ideas for your own songs. Thanks again for the visit! --Noel
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