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Well if this is the 256 limit it should be fixed, and could be fixed by making BIAB count the number of bars before rendering and either rendering less or putting up a flag to the user, preventing it. It's really bad programming to allow a program to crash windows. Meanwhile the user is left clueless as to the cause. I shall have to rebuild my preferences again and wasted hours on redowloading the app. It's just shoddy. If users had already identified the issue years before it's pretty poor. Though support is very good, so much of the program is really naff, win 95 feel- Still. I leave it there. No further comment from me. Z
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This is a very pretty song James. Love the lyrics, music and arrangement! Great job.
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Suno is nobody's 'songwriting partner'; Suno and other similar tools have come to destroy human creativity in musical composition. It is sad to see musicians defending or promoting this kind of thing. This about using it for production, not creation. Big difference.
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Thanks for your kind words, Marty. Maybe I can license it to an emerging country that needs a national anthem, haha!
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I have often been in a situation where I have been depressed and decided to stop writing songs and performing live. But something strange says: go to the piano and behold, words and melody are born! Thank you Floyd for this song Jona
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Groove nicely, pleasant to listen to! Jona Thanks, Jona!
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Calming tune. I enjoyed it! Great job! Send the rain my way....maybe it would clear out this choking wildfire smoke. 
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Great upbeat tune - I enjoyed this! That's one hell of a fiddle player!
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This is amusing! You got a lot of the elements of a country song: girl in cut offs, Chevy pickup, beer, Friday night, cruising down the road.  You definitely did your homework on country music!
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Thanks, Babu! Glad you enjoyed it! Yeah, I kept the mic and bass from my stage days. The bass I just took out of the case and restrung. I've been dragging that old thing around with me hoping I might get back to it some day. 
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The topic of AI has been beat to death and elicits some pretty dramatic reactions in some people, to the point of cutting off communication rather than accepting and allowing for different points of view. Social media especially and songwriter groups specifically, are polarized into two distinct camps with very little common sense or ground being shared. One side says AI is the best thing since sliced bread and indoor plumbing, and the other says AI is of the devil and all that it entails. So.... Moving along.... It seems that there's a big push from the record industry and streaming services to identify the music that is being created using AI. So much so that they are starting to tag and label the music with one of 2 different labels. One with a big AI in the box to signify 100% use of AI or nearly so, and a second with the smaller ai in the box signifying that there was some use of AI generated tracks used in the music. I say we're approaching this the wrong way. How about flipping it? Instead of the AI label, use a HU label to indicate that all the tracks and vocals are 100% human created, and a smaller hu in the box for music that contains tracks that are not human created but are in fact, simply human assisted. Use of VSTi plugins, tracks created by Band in a Box, etc, would be labeled as human assisted. They could still use the AI label for the 100% AI generated with a prompt music. Just thinking..... What say you?
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Yep. Totally reminds me of what a theme song for The Ministry Of Silly Walks would sound like. One and one doesn't have to be two. DANG! i love this, Scott. Dig that wall of sound you created. Excellent lyrics and what a fun melody. OUtstanding produyction, Scott. Much enjoyed!!
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So cool, Bob & Joliz. Whenever i see a new post of yours it's like getting a new book from my favorite writer. "The drunks all talked religion" and all the lyrics from "She" to "time" tell such a wonderful story --real life stuff as only you can write it. What a wonderful presentation. Thanks, Bob & Joliz.
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Hey mon this is fantastic. Love the groove. You did amazing with that synth vocal. I really dug the lyrics, very well done! Great backing band and mix. IMHO this is your best to date Loved it. .......................................... Yes, even Germans have feelings sometimes. ................................ Thank you for your really kind words, Mario. Mucho appreciated  ... Hers go from sweet and loving to a mad ragging bull... Sounds like a perfectly normal woman
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An incredibly fine piece The vocal parts are gold. I hear Carly Simon somewhere ..
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Bonjour, Ton problème est apparu "comme çà ..." ou suite suite à une manip particulière : mise à jour, ..... Daniel
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Defo M AUDIO Air the bees knees .
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Hi Mario, I enjoyed this song - tasty chord changes, laid-back groove, and tasty guitar, bass and Swam trumpet playing. Very nicely done! Bob
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Hi All, I have been using Band-in-a-Box for many years and currently use Band-in-a-Box 2024 for Windows and the Band-in-a-Box iOS app version 2.0.7 on my iPad. I have around 60 older songs that I created several years ago (probably with BIAB 2022 or earlier). These include original songs from my band as well as many practice songs. For each song I have: • SGU/MGU files • sometimes MGX files • matching *_render.m4a files These songs were carefully customized: • drums removed or muted in some arrangements • specific RealTracks selected • styles adjusted • many mix and arrangement changes made manually The rendered M4A files sound exactly as intended. In older versions of the Band-in-a-Box iOS app these songs worked perfectly: • the notation and chords were displayed • the original rendered M4A audio was played After updating to iOS app version 2.0.7, the notation is still correct, but the app seems to ignore the existing *_render.m4a files and regenerates the accompaniment from the SGU file. The result is different: • some styles are replaced • some RealTracks are different • the arrangement no longer matches my original rendered version I also noticed something interesting: When I use “Open → Local Song” in the iOS app, there is an old file called “your_old_biab_songs.zip” shown with the label “M4A+ Ready”. However, opening this ZIP causes the app to crash. The ZIP is not visible in the iPad Files app, so I cannot inspect its contents. I assume it is an old import created by a previous version of the app. My questions: 1. Has support for older BB2Go songs with *_render.m4a files changed in the newer iOS app versions? 2. Is there a way to convert or migrate these older songs so the existing rendered M4A audio is preserved and used by the iOS app? 3. Is there a utility in BIAB 2024 Windows (or another method) to embed or link an existing *_render.m4a into the SGU file without rendering the song again? 4. Is “M4A+ Ready” related to this older ZIP import format, and is there a way to recover or convert these songs? The important point is that I do not want the songs regenerated. The existing M4A files represent the final arrangements I created over many hours and are the performances I want to hear. I only need the iPad app to show the chords and notation while playing the original rendered audio. Thank you very much for your help.
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I thought the lead guitar sounded natural instead of quantized. I like the little interactive instrumental bits. I understand what you mean about BIAB enabling us to unleash our creativity!
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This program's graphic layout is pretty antiquated and there are multiple ways to go to the lessons, which makes it pretty difficult to navigate. I found the easiest way is to load the program, click the grey "welcome" button (which is itself a problem because it's grey and I missed it, thinking it would light up), click the grey "begin lessons" on the far right, then use the tiny green left and right arrows at the lower right corner of the blue/navy blue horizontal banner to work through the program. Ignore the toolbar at the top. It will bring up the hyperlinks which will take you to the chords. The content is there but the layout is atrocious.
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Haven’t heard anything. Haven’t looked either. A quick question about playing tablature, if you don’t mind. I understand the theory and always wondered if there could be some mathematical analysis of playing a passage that would result in the least finger movement. My question is, are there cases where this is not what you want? Where finger patterns are better even if there is more total ‘reaching’? For example, you might look at a trumpet player and assume any of the three valves is equally easy to play. Any pro trumpet player who says they are is lying. The first and second are far easier than the third, and it’s a good thing the third is used less. However, I often use alternate fingerings in quick passages where the total movement is easier. Hard to explain unless you play. Woodwinds are a better example, with all the two pinky fingers are expected to do. Fourth finger is the worst. Anything like that in the string world? I don't know if there is any software that will do a mathematical analysis of the best position to play a solo note piece on the guitar for example, but when I do look at tab, I am always trying to figure out where it will fall more naturally under the fingers without jumping around the fretboard like a demented spider. Then there is the added thing to take into consideration where it will sound the best, as the same note but on different strings will sound somewhat different in tone Musical Timbre maybe. +1. Stringed instruments afford the ability to find a certain note (pitch) in more than one spot. Each selection provides a different timbre to the note and often different harmony options. On a guitar finding where a melody (and harmonization) lies "best" is both a great exploration and sometimes frustration. Learning to play an arrangement (especially with harmonies) in 2 or 3 different places is a capability on guitar that definitely separates the men from the boys. Sometimes when learning a guitar cover, you may have to fiddle with where you play it to more closely approximate how a particular artist played it. Just playing the notes correctly is, at some level, not enough. It's got to feel like Carlos Santana, albeit with your personal sauce.
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Hi Andrew, There is a file called data but it is not in the real tracks folder. should I rename this one. It has a lot of stuff in it, including a file called style pickers.
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Perhaps somebody has posted on this somewhere else in the forum. I fired up BIAB today on my Tahoe 26.5.2 Mac Mini. Got the "you will be dead and in a grave soon" message. Didn't realize 6 years had passed since AAPL promised to kill rosetta. Anyway, I'm sure the Apple Silicon version will soon be ready for Beta Testing?
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