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Hi folks,
I see several threads on the mystery of Bank Select once you go exploring beyond General Midi in your setup. Here's my situation and I'm hoping for a clue.
Equipment:
BIAB 2010, latest build
Alesis QS6.1 synth
Win 7

The synth is not recognizing bank select. It's running in multi-timbral mode, ProgramSelect On.
According to the manual, CC0/BankSelect messages should work.

In BIAB I've used both a patch list for the QS6 and the manual + button for the Bank Select and Patch info. The synth will change the patch on the selected channel, but ignores the bank.

On the QS6 I can manually select a Bank/Patch for each channel using the synth's control buttons.

Ideas?
TIA.


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Hi,

A couple of things I noticed in looking through the manual (I only found the 8.1 manual, but the concepts are probably similar).

-There appear to be about 5 banks of 128 sounds each, with the first bank (0) being the User Bank, followed by some preset banks.

-The synth responds to Bank Select controller 0 messages only, so you can ignore Bank Select LSB (controller32).

-It only responds to bank select messages if "MIDI ProgSl" is turned ON.

-If General MIDI mode is turned ON, the synth will ignore Bank Select messages (perhaps that's what your problem is). At the same time, the manual says that turning GM mode on will also turn on the MIDI ProgSl -- presumably this just allows it to respond to Program Changes when in GM mode, but it will still ignore bank changes.

-Since you can create your own set of Programs in the User Bank, perhaps you could make your own GM set there, so you don't have to be in GM mode to have the GM set of sounds available. The drum kits would be an exception here, because the synth probably only uses channel 10 for drums when set to GM mode.

-You can use the patch map available for download from here:
http://www.pgmusic.com/support_miscellaneous.htm


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" -If General MIDI mode is turned ON, the synth will ignore Bank Select messages (perhaps that's what your problem is)."

Thanks Andrew, that was it. Sometimes that extra set of eyes pointing out one of the conditions is what it takes. A D'OH! moment for me. Thanks again!


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