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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8gffhbeU...&playnext=1Found this through an online collaborator who has kindly played fretless on a couple of my songs. He knows the producer, Eyal Amir. Pay attention to that name, I wouldn't be surprised to see this guy's name on some Grammy awards as a producer. Check out Eyal's other stuff. The singer has an interesting tone/style. Rudess looks like he is having fun with the iPad controller/synth as is Eyal.
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Will there someday be a new Instrument Major at the conservatories?
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Way osmosis koo! Thanks, Scott. Incredible!
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These days you don't need to know how to sing and now play an instrument to have a "hit."
Auto Tune and iPad is all you need now, I s'pose.
What are the union guys going to do now? lol
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I like it 
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Thanks for posting Scott. There's no denying that the musical capabilities of the I-pad open some interesting new options for musicians... and the video you posted is a good example of a very high-quality production using only I-pad based instruments. Actually, I think ONE app (Geo-synth) created ALL the sounds in the song except the girls voice, (which is totally captivating. I bet we'll be hearing more from her too. )
Considering the musical niche we all share, I think these Ipad apps are a natural extension of what we already do. I'm genuinely excited about the possibilities. If I ever get around to posting a song on the user showcase, it will probably include at least one Ipad instrument
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When you listen to Amir at the end, he's talking about using the Ipad as a controller for the regular softsynths we all know like Halion. You can't tell in this vid what the Geo synth itself sounds like but there's probably other vids that demo it by itself.
Thinking that a performer you hear do something that sounds like it didn't require a lot of pure classical music background is the same mistake I made 40 years ago. I would hear these simple parts played on a lot of pop hits and think I can do that, I can make it as a player too. It wasn't until much later I found out the guy hired by the producer to do that simple part is a graduate of Julliard or something. The vast majority of musicians that make it to this level are all well educated. Just because some of their stuff doesn't sound like it is simply the listeners lack of knowledge in that type of music. You have to be a monster player to do what they did in that video. Just the drumming was awesome. It looked to me like he was playing the drums in real time, not triggering loops. If so, that's some very good playing just tapping his fingers on an Ipad.
I can't say how many times I've listened to an interview with some kid player who is all tatted up, looks like some refugee from a homeless shelter yet as soon as he opens his mouth I realized this kid is very sharp, very well educated and plays his butt off. He usually has very well off parents too, that's how he was able to develop his talent looking like he does. I remember one guy talked about his mother being a classical concert pianist with a Steinway in the living room and he started playing it at around 5 or so then switched to guitar in high school. To look at him and listen to the very strange prog rock stuff he's now famous for you would never think he came from that background.
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Did someone really call them a musician? ComPOSER would be more like it, IMO.
The girl can sing though. I was referencing in general that all you need now is a PC to "make music" with these days. No talent, other then being able to compose some chords in a DAW/iPad program. It's all good. I definitely hate the Auto Tune'd stuff tho.
Shh, I am starting to sound like Mac now.
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I downloaded Geo synth today. There's nothing automatic about it... its the same as any other MIDI controller, except that the interface is a smooth piece of glass that allows sliding from note to note (or not)
Like any other instrument, you have to learn where the notes are, then be able to trigger them on beat and without triggering the wrong note. In other words, its a whole new instrument, and in order to use it, you have to learn how to play it. I first thought it would be a toy, but it makes sounds that I would definitely use in a song I wanted other musicians to hear.
All in all, I love it. Best $9.99 I ever spent.
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the thought occurs to me that the natural progression will be to make traditional instruments with glass interfaces... like a synth with a glass keyboard that can be configured to look like ebony and ivory, or a harp, drums or virtually anything.
Likewise a bass or guitar with a glass neck that can be played in the traditional sense, or as these ipad apps. That would be true guitar synth, with no strings for false triggers or special pickup sensitivity settings
I already want one, and they don't even exist yet.
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Trax you can't be serious, are you? Did you listen to any of the other links? Jordan Rudess is a classically trained virtuoso and the singer is down with Brazilian jazz in a major way. Yes they are musicians in the truest sense of the word.
Spend some time on YouTube with both names. Its not April 1 is it?
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My thoughts on it; maybe old skool, but if you don't have a mic to record your "instrument" with in a studio/daw, it isn't a 'real' instrument. YMMV  Trax
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I have had this app in my wish list on iTunes for a while and decided to buy it today after watching this video along with others found on the net. Thanks for posting.
I am a mainly a guitarist with several keyboards but have never been able to get comfortable with the keys so I figured why not try something with a different aspect. I have tried the developer's other app called Mugician but couldn't figure out any of the options but liked the different way of triggering sounds.
I have only had it for a while but I do like getting away from the white and black keys set in the the key of choice. Yes, it may be cheating a little but I have learned to progress with the sometimes odd style of making music on an iDevice.
Whether or not I can accomplish my musical desires with an IDevice or not is still forthcoming but I think it may be a step in the right direction.
Sitting in my rocking chair on the porch this evening triggering awesome sounding VST's on my DAW via WiFi with Geo was quite relaxing. Not that the built in sounds (JR's Dream Theater's patches) are any where near bad, but the flexibility of the app is quite surprising.
I haven't looked through the manual yet but after seeing the video of where you can import custom samples into the app via SampleWiz? (another creation of the same developer) It has even more potential to disconnect from the wires that bind us to our DAWs (along with the other impressive DAW and synth type of apps showing up).
Again, I hope that PG Music recognizes the iDevice/Android market to further develop BIAB/RB and other apps to cash in on this potential market.
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My thoughts on it; maybe old skool, but if you don't have a mic to record your "instrument" with in a studio/daw, it isn't a 'real' instrument. YMMV
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Um, you mean like your MIDI keyboards?
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I agree 100% Scott. I've become a big fan of JR just in the last two years or so because he's also done some killer demos for Kurzweil and Korg. One of those was so complex he was using a score on an electronic gadget. I couldn't tell what it was but I want one when the prices come down. Any keyboard player who listens to him for 10 seconds can tell he's classically trained. You don't get chops like that playing with games in the basement.
I don't do prog rock or whatever you should call it so when I was checking out demos for my latest keyboard I had never heard of him. I already have some of your links bookmarked, he's one of the guys I sit back and listen to when I don't feel like playing.
There's also a very cool series of videos about Dream Theater holding auditions for a new drummer. Fascinating insight into how the music biz works at that level. Good talk plus the actual auditions feature some great playing.
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Wow. Doubting the talent of Jordan Rudess? Talk about having a set of juevos....
You HAVE heard of Dream Theater, I assume?
Jordan may have the fastest fingers out there. What he does on the synthesis side is just an enhancement of his sounds, not a detraction of his talent. He is a player.
It is almost comical how people who are using a program that plays instruments FOR them have the audacity to make comments about PROFESSIONAL musicians that are light years more talented than any of us here. Comments about "auto tune and iPad" are totally ridiculous. If the tools are out there, are they not out there to be used? I mean, this whole "automobile" thing.... do you have a really big yard where you park your horse and buggy? Carpenters have battery operated tools now ever since that "electricity" thing caught on. I have a bathroom INSIDE my house now since the invention of plumbing.
Post after post here praises the interfacing of RB and iPhone and iPad. Is that heresy too?
Just because you are too cheap to buy technology and/or don't know how to use it, don't put down the players who have embraced it.
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I-pad + geo-synth as midi controller: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3wfqKSLS...DF989EEB554F058listen to the sax, which is typically a difficult instrument to emulate with most midi controllers. The ability of a glass surface to allow a wide range of percussive, sliding, strummed or plucked note-on triggers makes it particularly well-suited for use as a MIDI controller for many instruments. Yeah, most synths have a pitch wheel.. .but there is something more intuitive about sliding up to the note in the same way you would with a fretless instrument.
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