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I took standard "classical" piano lessons as a child up to about age 12, and became somewhat proficient at reading music and playing from sheet music. At the time, I felt it was drudgery since I wasn't learning to play the type of music that I wanted. It was a learning system that I felt was too regimented, as I never really learned about chord progressions and playing "freely". It was just "play the music as written and don't deviate" - repeat, so I gave it up.
Now that I'm retired and have time, I want to learn to play the music I like (pop, ballads, blues) improvisationally. I still have a good understanding of the keyboard and basic chords but need guidance to move forward. I've discovered "Fake Books" and can basically play using them, but it still sounds stilted and stiff, since I'm only basically playing the root chords with my left hand.
An internet search yielded a number of online courses for purchase, and I'd like to make an intelligent choice. Among the choices I've found have been playPianoToday.com, pianomagic.com, and (of course) Scott Houston's DVD courses. I should quickly add that I feel that I learn better from watching/listening than from a book. I feel that the smartest way to progress is to learn chord progressions/modifications to play improvisationally thru one of these courses (or similar). I may need to "unlearn" a few things, and I definitely don't want to get locked into the same regiment of just "playing it as it's written" again. I then want to get back into BIAB (which I've purchased a year ago, but only dabbled with by playing melodies with the right hand), using it as an accompanying backup band.
I have a Yamaha keyboard, but recently inherited my mother's piano (which I just had tuned). Getting the old piano is really what's motivated me to start back in this direction. Now I need recommendations on a good, effective online course which would help me towards my goal.
I hope this all makes sense. Can anyone help me out with a recommendation for an online or video course on DVD?
Thanks!
Kawai VPC1 MIDI Controller; Asus A53E Laptop running Windows 7 - 64 bit; BIAB 2017 UltraPlusPak (upgraded from 2014 EverythingPak), running from Laptop's Hard Drive.
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Before paying for anything, check out PianoJohn on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/pianojohn113I think it will be just what you are looking for (as long as you don't mind mostly Beatles, Elton John and Billy Joel). With what you already know, you should get a quick understanding of how to "transition" to a "piano player as opposed to a music reader". His instruction is intelligent and easy to follow. And you can be playing the songs in his "lessons" in no time. And you learn as you go.... floyd
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I have David Sprunger's play piano today course. If you buy the package deal, it's an incredible value. Go to his website and look under the "View All Lessons" tab. You can view many parts of the videos. Another good package deal is at www.pianoforall.comBoth have lots of info for the price. I have no connections to either.
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Before paying for anything, check out PianoJohn on YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/user/pianojohn113
I think it will be just what you are looking for (as long as you don't mind mostly Beatles, Elton John and Billy Joel). With what you already know, you should get a quick understanding of how to "transition" to a "piano player as opposed to a music reader".
His instruction is intelligent and easy to follow. And you can be playing the songs in his "lessons" in no time. And you learn as you go....
floyd
Thanks for the link, Floyd. But, from the few videos I've viewed so far, I'm not sure whether this is what I'm looking for. It appears that each video covers a specific song and just shows the specific notes to play. It reminds me of "rote" practice only without the actual sheet music.
Is there more to his channel that I'm missing?
Thanks again!
Kawai VPC1 MIDI Controller; Asus A53E Laptop running Windows 7 - 64 bit; BIAB 2017 UltraPlusPak (upgraded from 2014 EverythingPak), running from Laptop's Hard Drive.
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I have David Sprunger's play piano today course.
If you buy the package deal, it's an incredible value.
Go to his website and look under the "View All Lessons" tab.
You can view many parts of the videos.
Another good package deal is at
www.pianoforall.com
Both have lots of info for the price.
I have no connections to either.
Thanks for the info, Danna! The "Piano for All" site might be just what I'm looking for. It sounds like it's a mix of learning improvisational skills along with effective practice drills.
Does anyone have any other recommendations for me to check into?
Thanks again!
Kawai VPC1 MIDI Controller; Asus A53E Laptop running Windows 7 - 64 bit; BIAB 2017 UltraPlusPak (upgraded from 2014 EverythingPak), running from Laptop's Hard Drive.
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I just bought the "Learn and Master Piano" series. It's well reviewed and has about a dozen video DVD's and also audio CD's, but I probably won't have time get into it until after the first of the year.
They're been running a sale $100 off the regular $249 price.
You can also find it on Amazon for about $90, but check the number of disks included
Boyd
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Don't leaved out Willie Myette. I have David Sprunger's complete course and frankly I don't touch it any more. Willie Myette he's the one for me. A huge range of videos, a complete pianist; blues, jazz, latin gospel, anything you care to name. He has a lot of samples on U tube too so check them out. I took up piano only a while back (but can read and play several instruments). from basic theory scales and chords through all the jazz chords thoroughly treated, chord subs, upper structure triads, I got rhythmn changes, many standards get their own two week course, blues in many styles closely analysed, chord and scale theory the list goes on and on. Latin montunos, classic Jobin songs, gospel in severval styles, minor blues theory and songs, minor harmony, the list is huge. Its all divided up into courses which are suites of 10 minute lessons, that each take about two-three days (ish) to get moving.
Al the time he focuses on creativity, not just copying his ideas parrot style. He helps you understand not just what to do, but why you are doing it and how it fits in the universe of sound
Willie took me from the 'knowing the theory but can't actually play' stage to fluent. Willie is a very good teacher not just a very good player.
Frankly, I could see how it could be done better. I am so glad I discovered him.
BIAB and Willie Myette is a fantastic way to learn
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Don't overlook the programs available right here from pgmusic. "The Modern Jazz Pianist" "Piano Performance Series" "Oscar Peterson multimedia CD" -- Oscar Peterson. The Jazz Piano legend brings an exciting new level of artistry to the multimedia experience... "The Latin Pianist" "Piano Master Class" "The Jazz Piano Master Class" "Blues Piano Master Class" -- Aspiring jazz improvisation students, do not sell this one short, the Blues is the *basis" of all other jazz forms and the basics are all here, presented very well. http://www.pgmusic.com/products.win.htm On top of that, these programs were, for the most part, designed to work and play well with BiaB. IMO, beginners should start with the "Blues Pianist" and get those so important basics down. The late great Vince Guaraldi used to say, when someone would give him accolades as to his jazz piano abilities, "I'm just a Boogie Pianist!" Indeed. --Mac
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I have David Sprunger's play piano today course.
If you buy the package deal, it's an incredible value.
Go to his website and look under the "View All Lessons" tab.
You can view many parts of the videos.
Another good package deal is at
www.pianoforall.com
Both have lots of info for the price.
I have no connections to either.
Danna,
I decided to buy David Sprunger's "Play Piano Today" Course. I've downloaded all of the files (which are quite numerous), and see that many (or most?) need to be installed on my computer. My question is - which file(s) do I start with? In what order should the lessons be taken? Should I just run each installation file (in any order), and the sequence is then automatic?
I've e-mailed David and am awaiting his answer, but I thought that I'd ask here as well, since I'm impatient to get started!
Thanks!
Kawai VPC1 MIDI Controller; Asus A53E Laptop running Windows 7 - 64 bit; BIAB 2017 UltraPlusPak (upgraded from 2014 EverythingPak), running from Laptop's Hard Drive.
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I had purchased the DVD version over a year ago.
So I'm not sure about installing all from download, and the sequence will then be in order.
I doubt that they will.
But I'm pretty sure you should start with the book and videos called "Pattern Piano."
Just this section will take lots of time to get good at.
Hopefully David will reply after the weekend.
Take your time, it will take years to learn all the stuff he has in the course.
Last edited by Danna; 12/16/12 02:59 PM.
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I had purchased the DVD version over a year ago.
So I'm not sure about installing all from download, and the sequence will then be in order.
I doubt that they will.
But I'm pretty sure you should start with the book and videos called "Pattern Piano."
Just this section will take lots of time to get good at.
Hopefully David will reply after the weekend.
Take your time, it will take years to learn all the stuff he has in the course.
"Pattern Piano" is exactly where I've started. You're right that there's plenty to absorb (and practice) there. No reply from David yet, but it'll be awhile before I'm thru the "Pattern Piano" lessons. 
Thanks.
Kawai VPC1 MIDI Controller; Asus A53E Laptop running Windows 7 - 64 bit; BIAB 2017 UltraPlusPak (upgraded from 2014 EverythingPak), running from Laptop's Hard Drive.
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I had purchased the DVD version over a year ago.
So I'm not sure about installing all from download, and the sequence will then be in order.
I doubt that they will.
But I'm pretty sure you should start with the book and videos called "Pattern Piano."
Just this section will take lots of time to get good at.
Hopefully David will reply after the weekend.
Take your time, it will take years to learn all the stuff he has in the course.
FYI: Here's the response I got from "Play Piano Today" Customer Service:
We've put together a short video that will show you the download process for all of our lessons.
Here is the link:
http://www.PlayPianoTODAY.com/download-information.html
For a study plan that will lead you through the complete bundle of lessons, follow the order of lessons found at the following link:
http://www.playpianotoday.com/resource/carts/complete-bundle-shipped-preview6-new.html
One lesson that should be studied at the same time as all of the other piano lessons is "Ear Training 101". This interactive computer program will teach your ears to hear intervals (distances between notes) as well as chords. A good plan of action is to spend 5-10 minutes a day with "Ear Training 101" while you are studying all of the other lessons.
Kawai VPC1 MIDI Controller; Asus A53E Laptop running Windows 7 - 64 bit; BIAB 2017 UltraPlusPak (upgraded from 2014 EverythingPak), running from Laptop's Hard Drive.
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