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This is how I play it on the guitar (lowest to highest): 7 7 7 7 8 8 (Notes are: B E A D G C) The "What chord am I playing" website http://theguitarbuzz.com/instruction/what-chord-am-i-playing/lists it as: CM13, or D13 (no3), or Em 7 aug5 sus4 (w5), or Gsus4 6 add9, or Am11, or Bm 7 aug5 sus4 -9 Of those that I can get BIAB to accept, none sound like the guitar chord (even the one played "on screen" from that website) Help! Thanks! LLOYD
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I'd try Am11/B.
Afaik it's hard to get BIAB to replicate particular voicings - especially with RTs.
But that harmony will be right - and you'll have the bass note correct.
You could maybe try it a few times, and when you get one that sounds ok, freeze the track.
Best - Andy
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Thanks Andy.
I don't need a RealTrack.
I'll try your suggestion for a MIDI chord.
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Lloyd, also try the B chord, but spell it B7sus#5b9/C. This might give you more of the tension in the sound of your original chord.
Nice chord btw, sounds like a bitonal quartal voicing from two different keys a m3rd apart.
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Let's spell it.
8,8,7,7,7,7
C.F,A,D,F#,B
Note the enharmonic of the F with that F# an octave above it.
I would drop one or the other, depending on the context, however if you like it there are no rules at that point.
IS C the actual bass note for the rest of it? If so, naming off of the C wouldn't be allowed in standard fakechord because of the F.
One could notate it as a 'pipe' chord, where two basic triads are indicated as stacked, thus: F|Bm -- but BiaB has yet to recognize the pipe chord system.
Bm7/C would cover all notes but the darned F and may work.
I think you need to relisten to that F in there...
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You might try 8,X,7,7,7,7 to just drop the cacophony of that dsrned F...
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Mac, I think the chord is spelt C F Bb Eb Ab Db. 777788 with lowest note C on the 6th string. I think you've read it upside down as 887777.
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Alan: I tried B7sus#5b9/C but couldn't get it to sound the way I wanted.
Mac: I tried playing it on the guitar with your voicing but similarly, it wasn't what I was after. Also, the bass note is B.
I tried Alan's with a /B and that wasn't it either.
I need to use it as the last chord in the song. It follows a C chord.
For now, I just entered the C chord on the 1st beat of the last measure, then entered the required notes in Melody with a guitar selected on the 3rd beat. That's what I'm playing on guitar.
Any other suggestions I'd be happy to try them.
Thanks all!!
LLOYD S
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I read it "upside down" at first, just like Mac.  The easiest way to think of the chord is that it is Cmaj13-- 1 C 3 E 5 G Maj7 B 9 D 11 F 13 A --but you are not playing the 11. It's not a big deal, though, because including the 11 or even a sharp 11 doesn't change the chord much. Try putting the Cmaj13 or Cmaj13#11 in as the final chord and have BIAB hold it. You'll probably be satisfied right off. If not, try Cmaj13/B. I guess the other choice is to wait until you mix the song and force a midi guitar to play the notes you want.
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With a C in the bass, it's a CMaj7 with added 6th and 9th. Many jazz players will play that chord on occasion. Later, Ray
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I would not try to get BiaB to replicate this. Its one of those cool chords you can get on a guitar, and only on a guitar. Like some of the heavy-metal power chords, it gets its unique sound from the layout of the guitar tuning. To try to get other instruments to cover the notes without access to the special voicing you get on guitar is kind of missing the point.
Mind you, I dont disagree with the analyses given in the responses above.
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Lloyd,
What is the song's key?
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I'm with Noel on this. We need some context in order to tell what the chord is. However I think you are confusing chord name with voicing. If you use the same notes in a different order you have not changed the chord just how it's voiced.
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Lloyd, another issue might be the style you're using. Sometimes certain extended or altered chords are better supported by styles with fuller two handed piano voicings. If you're hoping to get the guitar part of the style to play the chord chances are it won't work. Most of the guitar parts in BIAB styles have abbreviated voicings in order to blend better with other instruments in the overall sound of the style.
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Here's some more "context".
- The song is Trambone
- I play it in the key of C
- The Style I'm using is ~!CHETBR
- I'm using that uptempo style slowed down to 125 bpm
- I'm using BIAB to practice the song with, strictly for my own enjoyment
- I just wanted the BIAB instruments to play the same chord as I'm playing on the end. See my previous post for my workaround.
Thanks all for your replies!
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Perhaps this is why the convention is Left-to-Right, Lowest-string-to-highest-string.
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Lloyd, you will not always get the exact guitar voicing you want in Biab regardless of whether you are using RTs or MIDI. When I want exact guitar voicing I use MIDI, input the nearest chord that has either most or all of the notes I want, then in Piano roll view change them to want I want. Note that sometimes I have to either add or delete notes to match my guitar voicing. I use the Piano roll view in my DAW to do this. If you do it in BiaB be sure to freeze that part other wise BiaB may regenerate it and you will lose all your work. Good luck PS – if you list your notes again like you did this time please indicate which note is on the bass string. I also read your listing the wrong way! Of course I did this and wondered where you came up with those notes prior to reading the whole thread 
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Mario:
I pretty much did what you suggested, i.e. I put in the notes I wanted in the Piano Roll mode in Melody.
Can you straighten me out on "indicating which note is on the bass string"?
My original post showed this: (Notes are: B E A D G C)
If, as Mac suggests, the convention is lowest to highest, left to right, then what I listed is correct. The lowest note is B, played on the low E string at the 7th fret.
I must be missing something <grin>
Help!
Thanks!
LLOYD
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No, you are correct, as B is the bass note on the low E string.
Good luck
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It was the NUMERICAL listing you gave, in a vertical, that I misinterpreted.
When guitar neck is depicted in the vertical like that, the convention I've always used is that the lowest sounding string is at the bottom.
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