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Here's a chat with PG Music about a problem I'm having. Perhaps one of you can recognize this problem and tell me whether it's fixable.
you: I have BIAB V10. It works perfectly on the old Win98 computer that is connected to my piano.
you: I have just installed the BIAB 2007 demo.
you: When I record a song on that system, the piano does not sound right.
you: That is, it does not sound right while I am playing.
you: The sound changes over time, and may be related to the fact that the bass is being played through the piano (i.e. MIDI out from the computer).
you: This is a showstopper for me (that is I won't upgrade unless I can fix this).
you: Did I describe it adequately for you to recognize this problem?
you: Thanks,
Kent: Not sure exactly what you mean here... is all the sound is coming out of your piano?
you: Yes, that's right.
you: It sounds fine until I start the record operation with BIAB.
Kent: what kind of piano is this?
you: Yamaha P90
Kent: Does this thing have any other sounds, or is it just piano?
you: It has other sounds.
you: I use the piano for the bass sounds from BIAB.
you: I have the drums go through the sound card.
you: I use the midi mapper to handle that
Kent: really? is that part already set up?
you: Yes.
Kent: So when you're playing a song, are the correct sounds coming out of the keyboard?
you: Not really. The notes are correct, and it sounds like a piano, but the tone quality varies substantially from note to note.
Kent: that would probably be a velocity issue, i'm thinking
you: It works fine with BIAB V10
Kent: it's possible that in version 10, all the notes had the same velocity... what happens when you record?
you: I get those results while doing the record. When I play it back, the notes sound fine.
Kent: do you find that this is affected by how hard you're hitting the keys?
you: No. I can sit there and play one note over and over, and
you: the sound changes. The effect is like one of those rotating speakers, but the change is not regular
you: Kent, I think I will phone your tech support line so that I can demonstrate the problem and interact more quickly.
you: Thanks for your help.
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Kent solved it:
Kent: Ok, I have an idea we can try...
Kent: let's go to Options, Preferences please
you: OK, just a sec
you: OK, I'm there
Kent: cool, is the box marked MIDI Thru checked right now?
Kent: try unchecking it, and make sure Local ON is checked
you: I'm not seeing that box
Kent: oops, sorry... my fault
Kent: click the MIDI options button first
you: OK, I've done that and...
you: It looks like that fixed it!
Kent: oh good... that's the first time I've encountered that problem, glad we figured it out
you: Yes, looking good.
Kent: cool, anything else?
you: Yes, here's the next question:
Kent: ok
you: I use the midi mapper so that I can send the drum sounds to the sound card
you: and send the bass and piano to the keyboard
you: However, XP apparently doesn't have a midi mapper.
you: In the future I'd like to connect my piano to my XP instead.
you: Is there any way I can send the different instruments to different places?
Kent: Actually, I didn't even know it was possible until you said that you had done it.
Kent: I'm pretty sure all your MIDI has to go through the same device
you: OK, that's too bad, since the keyboard doesn't have drum sounds
you: Back on the first problem: Can you explain in a few words why unchecking MIDI thru fixed the problem?
Kent: basically, when MIDI thru is on, the MIDI signal passes through the computer, and back out through your piano... Local ON was also turned on though, so every time you hit a key, that would trigger a note directly through the keyboard, and the computer would trigger the same note at the same tim
you: OK, thanks.
you: Thanks for your help. That does it for me.
Kent: so now, when you hit a key, it triggers the note directly, but the computer isn't giving it a note instruction at the same time
Kent: coll, have a great day then
Kent: *cool
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The P-90 digital piano is not a GM/XG MIDI device. That is, it does not contain the standard MIDI bank of 128 instruments that BIAB is designed to work with, instead it has a rather truncated set of patches that consists of a few pianos, strings, etc.
Any horns, or other GM patches are unavailable for BIAB to use, plus the voices you do have are assigned to patch numbers that BIAB does not recognize, very likely that the piano is all on one MIDI channel also.
You could use the keyboard as a MIDI controller, though, using the VSC DXi that ships with BIAB as your software realtime GM MIDI synthesizer.
--Mac
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