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mixer set up problem #79281 07/09/10 08:15 PM Off-Topic
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 267 Perth, Australia tonymoloney OP Apprentice
OP tonymoloney Apprentice Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 267 Perth, Australia	Like a lot of musos, my singing voice is much louder than my talking voice, so when I set up my mixer for singing, after the gig people point out that they could not really hear my announcements. Apart from having individual mics for singing and speaking, is there any way of overcoming this problem? I'm thinking along the lines of a stomp box that could switch between different pre-sets. tony Lenovo lappie, 4Gb RAM, 500Gb HD Ubuntu 12.04 Running BIAB under WINE

Re: mixer set up problem tonymoloney #79282 07/10/10 04:35 AM Off-Topic
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 8,021 Rio Grande Valley, Texas silvertones Veteran
silvertones Veteran Joined: May 2003 Posts: 8,021 Rio Grande Valley, Texas	Tony, This is Theater. Just as you know that you sing loud to project you need to talk loud as well. It may sound to you like you're screaming but it wont out front. Easy to say from a big mouth like me. If you want to use a compressor that would also work. Volume pedal in the channel insert? John ESI Gigaport HD+ Lenovo Turion II /4 Gig Ram/ Win7x64 be 15.6" Monitor "The only Band is a Real Band" www.wintertexaninfo.com/BANDS/JohnnyD.php

Re: mixer set up problem silvertones #79283 07/10/10 05:49 AM Off-Topic
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 6,725 USA Danny C. Veteran
Danny C. Veteran Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 6,725 USA	Just a thought Tony . . . but is it really the low volume of your speaking or (what I have found) people just don't listen to the spoken word/announcement as closely as they do to a vocal. With that said maybe all you need is an attention getter i.e. Drum Roll, Ta Ta etc. preceding your announcements. I say this because many times I hand a mic preset for announcements, or even the same mic I am using to sing through to an activity director for their announcements, and I know they are speaking in a loud voice, and most times it still takes an attention getter to get them heard. In the retirement communities minus a Drum Roll or Ta Ta I just announce that my next tune is a Rap or Heavy Metal tune . . . that usually gets their attention. But kidding aside I usually have a drum roll wav file at the ready fo such occassions. Later, Danny C. www.dannycampo.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/Danny-Campo/379776252109306?skip_nax_wizard=true The More You Drink The Better I Sound

Re: mixer set up problem Danny C. #79284 07/10/10 05:51 AM Off-Topic
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 8,021 Rio Grande Valley, Texas silvertones Veteran
silvertones Veteran Joined: May 2003 Posts: 8,021 Rio Grande Valley, Texas	Danny, Excellent thoughts on the subject. John ESI Gigaport HD+ Lenovo Turion II /4 Gig Ram/ Win7x64 be 15.6" Monitor "The only Band is a Real Band" www.wintertexaninfo.com/BANDS/JohnnyD.php

Re: mixer set up problem tonymoloney #79285 07/10/10 08:23 AM Off-Topic
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Mac Veteran M Joined: May 2000 Posts: 38,502 Chesapeake, Virginia USA	What type of mic are you using, Tony? A good high quality dynamic cardioid pattern mic designed for your vocal range is my recommendation here. The newer designs, featuring the Neodymium magnet technology, such as the Shure Beta 58, or my personal fav for the last few years, the Audix OM-5 are good strong examples of the technology. Other than that, it may be a problem with your methodology and use of your speaking voice. Just as with the singing, the announcing is not done with the "normal" speaking voice. We must practice the development of a good and strong announcing voice. Always inhale before announcing. It is air moving over the vocal cords that provides projection. Make sure you have enough air before attempting an announcement. Practice announcing by reading any material out loud. Mark the page with breath marks if necessary, to remind you when to take that all-important inhale as you read. (Breath mark is same as used with wind players - the apostrophe ' sign. Endeavor to always speak with an "Open Throat" when announcing. When using the air and the diaphragm muscles to expell the air while speaking, we don't want to "Pinch" the throat muscles as is often done by folks when they naturally want to sound louder. Pinching the throat will create more midrange frequencies (as far as the vocal range is concerned) but doesn't sound nice and "round" -- and also can be detrimental to the cords and throat muscles over time. We want to hear big and round, not small and "edgy". MOVE IN CLOSE to the cardioid microphone when announcing, which will accentuate the lower voice frequencies quite a lot. Practice at home with your mic and PA system on this one. There should be no reason to have to change Mic gain when going from singing to speaking - if the speaking is done properly as "announcing". --Mac PGmusic FAQs, Tutorials and Updates! click here You must be Audiominds. www.audiominds.com

Re: mixer set up problem Mac #79286 07/10/10 06:02 PM Off-Topic
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 267 Perth, Australia tonymoloney OP Apprentice
OP tonymoloney Apprentice Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 267 Perth, Australia	Thanks guys. Lots of good advice there. Looks like I better do some practice. tony Lenovo lappie, 4Gb RAM, 500Gb HD Ubuntu 12.04 Running BIAB under WINE

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